In a message dated 11/10/98 5:24:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<<< By the way I have yet to meet a man who deserves my obedience in any way,
shape or for >>
Hi! Just wanted to clarify this - I said the Spirit wants obedience - purety
and obedience - it should be obvious - man should also be pure and obedient to
woman - both male/female obedient - to each other and the rest of Life - what
I meant! OK?
Peace!
Angela>>
Then I suppose I'm lucky because my goddess doesn't expect obedience from me.
She wants me to question even her & think about what she directs me to do &
say. Thinking & questioning in my book is the only path to enlightenment.
Aedrienne
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 10 09:26:00 1998
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:25:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Arlene Plevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Poetry
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Although not asked, I would define intelligence as something which varies
from species to species, creature to creature. For humans, I would
suggest it is the ability to see beyond human boundaries; to act in a
farseeing, responsible fashion; to be open to others' way of seeing; to
adapt in a commonsense fashion; to recognize limits and to embrace
different visions. I would add that intelligence without compassion
without openness is fairly useless.
And, I would add that intelligence is not the be-all or end all of any
kind of judgement. I would also add that I have grown to want to treat
all creatures as deserving of space, compassion etc., regardless of their
economic value--that blasted determinent which seems to be the base of
most arguments: that it isn't worth anything unless it is worth something
to humans. I would like to go beyond stewardship: to where all things
deserve space, place, etc. That suffering of all kinds, of all creatures,
is to be avoided. And, Ecolady, if you read "Noah's parable" as a reason
to be a steward, fine. I differ, but I'm not going to hold up my way as
the only reasonable way, which I suggest, your language puts forth you do.
Arlene
On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 98-11-09 02:06:37 EST, you write:
>
> << Your Poem was so
> far removed from reality that I felt obliged to place a more realistic view
> of things as I see them." I think you live in the land of the fairies
> where you write
> >>
> Hi!
>
> Marguerite, someone once told me that if you want to convince someone of your
> view -you have to answer the all important question WHY? Now you want to
> convince citizens of this Earth that killing the animals for greed and avarice
> is bad - we are being bad - right? I agree - However, my answer to the
> question WHY? is Because the parable of NOAH teaches us that the Animals are
> also important to God and that with the covenant we are to be stewards not
> destructionists.
>
> Now, you answer the question - WHY?
> Convincing others why they are wrong to hurt the animals - what is your reason
> why - and please do not say because pigs look intelligent - how does a
> creature look intelligent? How would you define intelligence?
>
> Thanks!
> Angela
>
>
