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Subject:                Re:  My conversion attempts!
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> Hi!
> 
> I just wanted to clarify this - if we back track to how this discussion
> starting about religion/spirituality and ecofeminism - you will see that my
> posts were just replies to your posts - I was just defending/explaining God
> while some were defending blaming God for the eco-crisis, etc. and defending
> the Goddess and other deity beliefs - however, I did not say that I wanted to
> convert any of you to Christianity - I know that the odds of that are as much
> as me joining a Wicca circle -!  The way I look at it you can practice that
> black magic and summon the crone (The White Goddess) but why not believe in
> real magic is how I see it "the real magic is God's!"   The magic of his
> eternal love for us.  The magic of the resurrection - now that's magic!  
> 
> Think about it -
> To me everything is in eternal cycles - doesn't that ring a bell - eternal
> cycles, eternal love, God's life, love - eternal - Round Earth - round and
> round we go- who said that God wanted to be referred to as a Goddess?  Some
> ancient culture that worshiped the fertility goddess, sacrificed humans,
> beheaded men?  Why would any God want us to sacrifice life, worship the
> process of life and/or behead our complements?   Is that your Goddess or was
> that a different goddess? Maybe I'm just getting them mixed up?  But I don't
> think so!    
> 
Have you ever noticed, Angela, that this baseless slander against 
Wiccans (which Christians used to murder millions of them in the 
inquisitionous Dark Ages) is the same one that Christians have used 
for centuries - nay, milennia - to persecute the Jews, and the same 
one they circulated about the Muslims to justify their Crusades?  In 
fact, Christians have told this same lie about anyone who was not 
Christian.  I guess it serves the same purpose as the old Judeo-
Christian belief that women lacked souls, or the old Jewish belief 
that only they were chosen of their god.  Once you dehumanize 
your targeted victims, you may then slaughter them in a spirit of 
righteous pride, rather than of guilt or shame.

> Re:  monotheism - who is saying that the belief in one God is harmful?  I
> forget who said that?  I want to add this:   How can believing in a united
> world where love is God and global vision of peace, love and harmony for
> humanity with the promise of eternal life be harmful?  What can be  harmful
> however is asserting our own ideologies to the cosmic truths until they
> accomodate us.    The truth is the truth is the truth - anything else is lies
> - the truth is God wants us to need/obey/and praise!

There is something wrong with any belief anyone is forced to swear 
allegiance to lockstep and at swordpoint.      Joe
> 
> Peace!
> Angela
> 

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