Angela, if your preachifying behavior on this list is what your god
would have you do, that is a sterling reason to avoid both him and
his followers at all costs! Joe
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 23 18:17:05 1998
From: "Joe E. Dees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:17:24 -0600
Subject: Re: Beliefs
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Angela, please stop forcing your "good news" down our throats. It
is old news (a couple of millennia old), we've all heard it before, and
hearing it again has no magical power to convert us, only annoy us.
We will persist in making our own free and independent decisions
about what we choose to and not to believe regardless of anything
you OR your god have to say about it! Joe
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 23 18:31:51 1998
From: "Joe E. Dees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:32:11 -0600
Subject: Re: Beliefs
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Angela, reluctantly consider us heart-hardened and hell-bound, if
that'll make you feel any better; just PLEEZE cease and desist from
further subjecting us to your Christian crapola - hokay? Joe
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 23 18:50:28 1998
From: "Joe E. Dees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:50:49 -0600
Subject: Re: Apologies
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I wish to apologize to the members of this list for flooding it with my
protests. When Angela continued to inflict her dogmas upon us
after repeatedly breaking promises to forbear and refrain, I just got
sick & tired of it all and lost my patience big time, but her bad
behavior is no excuse for my own.
Sincerely,
Joe
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 23 19:20:12 1998
From: "Joe E. Dees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:20:33 -0600
Subject: Re: Aunt Angela
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Angela, your continuous defence of obedience to patriarchal belief
systems on this list looks to me to be like an antifeminist patriarchal
version of Uncle Tom -ism. Uncle Tom was the slave who defended
slavery in Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel UNCLE TOM'S CABIN. Joe
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 23 19:48:37 1998
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:54:50 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: bunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ecosystemic wisdom and systemic beliefs
Angela,
I obey my commonsense and commonsense dictates that a mailing list like
Eco-Fem is made up of many with different beliefs. While I respect your
beliefs, I also think you should respect the beliefs of others.
I agree that continuing arguements on whether people believe in God
or not should be off the list but that debates on the issue of how religious
dogmas influence people in poverty and thus the environment in third
world countries are valid for Ecofem.
Marguerite
At 06:40 PM 23/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Date sent: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:44:29 EST
>Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: ecosystemic wisdom and systemic beliefs
>
>> In a message dated 98-11-22 22:29:52 EST, you write:
>>
>> << the poet Shelley said
>> obedience was the worst sin of humankind. I agree.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>> >>
>> Hi! I believe that it is WHAT we obey that makes all the difference. What
>> and who we obey! The actual act of obeying is very natural - Nature teaches
>> us obedience! I can give you many examples - I believe that obeying
>> something more powerful then you is not only wise but wonderful - it is
>> showing humility! Now, I agree that some powers that be (corporations)
MISUSE
>> their power - they want obedience to the rules of $ -but God wants the
>> obedience to the Holy Spirit - the spirit wants us to share, love and honor -
>> LOVE rules! Money was created as an exchange and has taken on a new identity
>> as a God - this is the worse crime committed by human - creating a money God!
>> Obedience to the Spirit is not a crime - it is a must! $ is not a God - Love
>> is!
>>
>> Peace!
>> Angela
>>
>Obedience to your spirit may be a must for you, but NOT FOR US!
>CAN IT! Joe
>>
>
>
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