In a message dated 98-11-23 22:04:40 EST, you write:

<< Angela, your continuous defence of obedience to patriarchal belief 
 systems on this list looks to me to be like an antifeminist patriarchal 
 version of Uncle Tom -ism.  Uncle Tom was the slave who defended 
 slavery in Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel UNCLE TOM'S CABIN. Joe
 
  >>
Hi!

I am going to re-iterate this:

The OBEDIENCE I am referring to is to LIFE and to The Holy Spirit of God - the
obedience to the patriarchial systems in place is not what I was referring to!
I do not believe we should blindly follow or obey beliefs that bring cruelty
to woman, animals or the planet -  There is a difference!
 
Regarding your rant - I forgive you!  Now, please forgive me for feeling
compelled to defend Christianity to you - again, you have your  beliefs, I
have mine - but do not continue to blame God for the eco-crisis and cruelty to
women - blame human misunderstanding - human fallacy - I have clearly iterated
what is expected of me and other Christians - Be Christlike, Obey the Holy
Spirit, Honor your Mother and your Father - Now you go do what it is you do to
save the Earth and each other as equals and leave blaming patriarchial
Christianity out of it!  Got it?

Peace!
Angela


Peace!
Angela

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