Hi Jane,

You didn't sound directional or judgmental to me. I was burning Rome-harsh on
America in my reply to Ariel. In no way did I mean to be sarcastic or slight.
I truly appreciate every opportunity to understand when I've gone awry.

There are plenty of reasons to be harsh on America. I have no answers, other
than to insist that our society become (or be held) accountable to those
affected by our actions.

It appears to me that this grand experiment called capitalist democracy (or
democratic capitalism) has grown to the inevitable adolescence stage.

(...i love metaphors, i like this one. i am having some fun here when i say
that america is still toying with the meaning of sexuality. seems a damn good
indication that we are not fully aware of what to do with this blossoming
part of our self. like a confused adolescent, we aren't able to accept the
experienced word of our french or swedish benefactors).

We've been in this state of adolescence long enough, brandishing about our
glorious self as being the 'best and only course of action' over the past 50
years of proverbial teenager-hood (our history prior was infantile,
toddlerish,  prepubescent).

It is time for America to step across the threshold into adulthood and assume
responsibility. Property rights are a good place to start.

I think it is more than fair to take America to task and ask how high (or for
how long) our old dictum, the traditional moral high ground of the individual
right to 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' can reach.

How far can these traditional values go when they inflict serious consequence
on All (capital A) neighbors? It matters little whether neighbors live
downstream of pollutants, erosion, and siltation or around to the other side
of the planet, working in sweatshops to cheaply clothe our masses, depleted
of natural resources by western style exploitation. It doesn't matter in this
morality whether neighbors are fish, wolf, fungi, grizzly, bengal tiger,
Mexican American or neighbors yet to be born.

I've met many wonderful people of my citizenship. I know many Americans who
do the work, but there are not enough to compensate for those who don't, for
starters: Bill Gates.

I'm off the edge because of a funk, a phase of disillusionment after
unhooking cable tv when Lewinsky was on air 24/7 (7 days a week, 24 hours a
day), only to find internet's CNN leading with headlines of abuse toward
homeless in America.

Jane, you are definite fuel to the fire!

in grateful sisterhood,
/donna

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> just realized my last post sounds a bit, um, directional?  judgmental?  I
> didn't say it right.  Imeant to say, Ariel is right, Donna and others have
> acknowledged it, let's keep this in mind but keep on going as well.
>
> Love, Jane

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