To Nicole and Mandy;
Thanks for being in the world! I hope there are more folks like
you in the universities these days; there certainly didn't seem to be
in my day; you were either a fundamentalist who believed in hellfire
for everyone else, or you were 'nothing'. But the two of you are
broad minded and tolerant and yet have a profound and inspiring faith!
Forgive me if my last post sounded harsh. The last time a Christian
got on this list the squabbling was just too much; and it filled up my
mailbox once or twice, even in digests.
(Not that the only time was due to the Christian; the debate on
vegetarianism did the same thing!)
Peace!
Bob Burns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> ECOFEM Digest 1235
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Judge stands by rape ruling
> by "Kimberly & Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2) Re: ECOFEM digest 1233
> by "Mandy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 3) Actors to help Women in Afghanistan
> by Donna Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 4) Re: Re(2): Fwd:virus: A Peek Behind Enemy Lines
> by Bertina Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 5) . . .He has saved us all. . .
> by "Mandy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 6) Re: . . .He has saved us all. . .
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 7) Re: . . .He has saved us all. . .
> by "Mandy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.1 message/rfc822
>
> Judge stands by rape ruling
>
> ROME (AP) - An Italian judge who ruled that rape is impossible when
a woman
> is wearing tight jeans is defending the decision attacked from all
sides as
> sexist and dangerous. "We have complete respect for women. We are
> sensitive, very sensitive to the sexual problems that afflict women in
> society," Justice Gennaro Tridico said Friday. Added the gray-haired
> justice: "I stand by my actions and am ready to repeat them."
Tridico is
> one of 410 men on the 420-member Court of Cassation, Italy's highest
> appeals court in criminal cases. See full story
> <http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558428442-a9b>
>
> More snow geese hunting gets OK
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) - The Interior Department said Friday it will allow 24
> states to ease restrictions on the hunting of snow geese in an
effort to
> kill thousands of the birds during their annual migration north from
the
> Gulf Coast to Canada. By unleashing more hunters onto the birds, the
> government hopes to reduce the burgeoning snow geese population. The
number
> of snow geese has grown so large biologists say the geese are
destroying
> arctic breeding grounds for a wide range of other migratory birds.
But the
> action immediately was criticized by the Humane Society of America,
which
> has long argued the freewheeling use of hunters to reduce the snow
geese
> populations is inhumane. See full story
> <http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558429173-d25>
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.2 message/rfc822
>
> We don't. Really get it. I admit I am a Christian, true and proud
because
> I believe that I am going to need something more than what is on
earth to
> help me continue figuring out what life is about. I do not condemn
anyone
> who is not Christian--I just pray that they too find solace in what
every
> they chose to trust in. For all I know God could be a women or
something
> "otherworldly" that is beyond human conceptions, I don't know. I
don't have
> any answers, but each night I pray to have them answered!
> God Bless All,
> Mandy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: ECOFEM digest 1233
>
>
> >
> >>Dear Ecofems; particularly Nicole and Mandy;
> > I very rarely post to this list because I live way out in the
> >woods and only check my email once a week or so when I come to town
to
> >the college library.
> > Can there be a truce between the monotheistic faiths and
feminism?
> > It's an important question. I certainly hope so. Of course there
> >also needs to be atruce between the monotheistic faiths thamsleves
but
> >that seems to be slowly coming about in the world; though there's
> >certainly a religious element in the conflicts in the Balkans and
> >Palestine. I think Angela had a good point that more change might be
> >effected by trying to work within the established faiths rather than
> >seeking their outright overthrow and replacement by new ones (or
older
> >ones!) I urge the Christians who read this list to study Christian
> >feminism. It's a legitimate study, not an oxymoron. I used to be a
> >fundamentalist myself, I've read the Bible cover to cover at least
> >twenty times; I assure you it's easy to defend both God imaged as
> >female, and a concern on God's part for women and the earth from both
> >Testaments. The fact that it's not the usual slant of the Bible only
> >makes it stand out all the more and support the claim that the book
> >has some inspiration over and beyond the cultures it originates from.
> > As for Judgment Day; it begins with the house of God! C.S. Lewis
> >called the Magnificat the most terrifying passage in the whole Bible-
> >a speech by a woman proclaiming God's opposition to the arrogance and
> >pride of men. And then there's Revelation 11, I believe (it's been a
> >while!): the day comes "for destroying those who destroy the earth!"
> >Believers of all faiths must realize the call to spread love, mercy,
> >and compassion. There is plenty and to spare of judgment for
> >everyone! I can just see Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Krishna, Buddha
> >(just to pick on the men) up there somewhere weeping in each other's
> >arms and saying "they just don't get it yet, do they?"
> > -Bob Burns
> >_________________________________________________________
> >DO YOU YAHOO!?
> >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> >
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.3 message/rfc822
>
> Hollywood community gathers to expose human rights abuses and send a
message
> of hope to the women and girls of Afghanistan March 29, 1999.
>
> http://www.feminist.org/news/pr/pr020899.html
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.4 message/rfc822
>
> Damn here I go again--dont believe in god, dont believe in an
afterlife, a
> judgement day-unless your in front of the senate. Who gives a damn
if your
> saved or not?
>
> Bertina
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Nicole L. Catchings wrote:
>
> > I'm no Christian crusader, or spokesperson, but it doesn't take an
idiot
> > to figure out that you're obviously not saved and believe me, it
will come
> > back ten fold on judgement day.
> >
> > Sincerely a college senior who fears God,
> > Nicole L. Catchings
> >
> >
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.5 message/rfc822
>
> >Damn here I go again--dont believe in god, don't believe in an
afterlife, a
> >judgement day-unless your in front of the senate. Who gives a damn
if your
> >saved or not?
> >
> >Bertina
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Being saved ins't just accepting Jesus into your heart. It is, at its
> barest elements, a pledge to live a loving and virtuous life. It is
believing in something out there that when you are lost you can find
answers to. It isn't just believing in a man who is supposed to have
walked on the earth and done miracles--it is trying to find miracles
in everyday life and learning from them. That is what being saved is
for me.
> God Bless,
> Mandy
>
>
<HR>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000080>>Damn here I go again--dont believe in
god,
don't believe in an afterlife, a<BR>>judgement day-unless your in
front of
the senate. Who gives a damn if your<BR>>saved or
not?<BR>><BR>>Bertina<BR>><A
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A><BR></FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><FONT color=#ff00ff></FONT></FONT>�</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><FONT color=#ff00ff>Being saved ins't just
accepting
Jesus into your heart.� It is, at its<BR>barest elements, a pledge to
live
a loving and virtuous life.� It is believing in something out there
that
when you are lost you can find answers to.� It isn't just believing in
a
man who is supposed to have walked on the earth and done miracles--it
is trying
to find miracles in everyday life and learning from them.� That is what
being saved is for me.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><FONT color=#ff00ff>God Bless,
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><FONT
color=#ff00ff>Mandy<BR></FONT><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.6 message/rfc822
>
> In a message dated 2/13/1999 3:10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Being saved ins't just accepting Jesus into your heart. It is,
at its
> barest elements, a pledge to live a loving and virtuous life. It is
> believing in something out there that when you are lost you can find
answers
> to. It isn't just believing in a man who is supposed to have walked
on the
> earth and done miracles--it is trying to find miracles in everyday
life and
> learning from them. That is what being saved is for me.
> God Bless,
> Mandy
> >>
>
> That is all fine and dandy but I hope you don't think that
christianity is the
> only route to living a loving and virtuous life?
>
> nicole
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2.7 message/rfc822
>
> Oh no! Read my last email.
> Mandy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: . . .He has saved us all. . .
>
>
> >In a message dated 2/13/1999 3:10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> ><< Being saved ins't just accepting Jesus into your heart. It is,
at its
> > barest elements, a pledge to live a loving and virtuous life. It is
> >believing in something out there that when you are lost you can find
> answers
> >to. It isn't just believing in a man who is supposed to have
walked on the
> >earth and done miracles--it is trying to find miracles in everyday
life and
> >learning from them. That is what being saved is for me.
> > God Bless,
> > Mandy
> > >>
> >
> >That is all fine and dandy but I hope you don't think that
christianity is
> the
> >only route to living a loving and virtuous life?
> >
> >nicole
> >
>
>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
