I have no particular reason for posting this except my male intuition that the list 
might find it interesting.
Joe E. Dees
Poet, Pagan, Philosopher


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    Many people with knowledge have asked me (and they had no intention to
be nice about it) What good is Philosophy, M?

     Let me demonstrate.

         a year or so ago, a dignified woman was working at a graduate
school of the University of Missouri at Columbia. A man who also worked at
the same place noticed this woman and expressed an interest.
Unfortunately, as was to be discovered, this soul was a black one.  things
started out innocently enough.  He said "hi", she said"hi" and for a while
that's all they said to each other.  One evening, he crossed her path on
campus and invited her for a cup of coffee at Brady Commons.  She
accepted.  He foolishly mocked and criticized her major. (the password is
Philosophy)  He then, under the guise of a conversation about religion,
kept metioning his private sexual practices. Throught this meeting, he was
acting in a very nervous manner.  She could allow him this nervousness
because sometimes, when one is very nervous one  just can't get a handle
on anything.  Everything comes out wrong and the more one tries to gain
control of a situation the worse things get.  Not knowing what to think or
fearing the reality of what just happened, the dignified woman parted the
man's company.

      Months later (because after the incident the woman was a bit more
cautious about saying hi to the man) the woman met up with the man again
as she was walking downtown on a warm, still summer's eve.  She sat down
to talk to him for a while out of curiosity.  The conversation varied from
topic to topic but one premise stated by the man could not be ignored,
"How can you tell someone whom you really like that you really like them?"
Suspecting where the conversation might be going, the woman, skilled in
the art of conversation led the conversation in all sorts of directions.
(Point of order: the man had previously, presumptuously remarked that
anyone could be a philospher and therefore spout forth philosophy)
An hour or so lapsed and thus the second premise,"Do you think that an
attraction between a man and a woman could be sexual?"  The woman
frightfully delighted at the transparency of it all, not expecting such
entertainment when she was walking downtown at first and being skilled in
the art of conversation again led the conversation in many directions.
An hour or so later, by that time working their way to the respectable
woman's apartment where the woman skilled in etquette had offered the man
a glass of wine and sat far across the room from him on another chair,the
entertainment became more than anyone could exspect.  The man believing
his rhetoric was attaining a desired end for him started demonstrating
inappropriate actions having a false belief that the woman was no higher
on the food chain than he was.  At the opportune moment the
premise\conclusion, "I am here because I want to have sex with you."

  Now the woman never lost her dignity. She did not pick up her son's
baseball bat and swing it at the disgusting, presumptuos man.( that would
have been impractical as she would have to wash down the walls,the floor
and it was such a beautiful evening) She smiled, laughed quietly and said,
"well, that was very honest of you. Here, have a little more wine."
Shortly after that she had gotten a headache and asked the black souled
individual to please leave.  She walked him to the door as was proper,
stood away from him because if he had leaned toward her to peck her on the
cheek, she would have lost her lunch all over him, and bade him goodnight.
He looked around as if someone was watching him and waiting for him,
tucked his shirt into his pants in the gesture of having been well taken
care of and left. He didn't give up right away after that as people who
are presumptuous and full of knowledge, knowing that anyone can imitate
philosophy thus turning on the woman so that she will lose control,and
pestered the woman several times downtown when he saw her.  Finally she
reasoned that the best thing to do was to rip his head off(figuratively of
course) and vomit down his throat.  He hasn't harassed her since.

  No respectable philosopher would tolerate such a violation of Kantian
ethics.



    The respectable woman went on with her life from that point.  Another
man of black soul crossed her path. This man was a TA from the
mathematical sciences building and had been a mediator at an exam she
took.  After the exam, they had a nice conversation with a couple other
people abot nationalities, families and children.  It seemed that the Man
had just had a baby. (well..his wife..you know)  The semester was
finished and time lapsed.  The man started seeing the woman around campus
and started to say "hello".  The woman would say"hello" and sometimes they
would chat for a brief moment as both had to get to class.  One day the
woman asked "and how is your baby?" to which the man gave an obscure,
something tragic answer.  After a few more hellos, the man asked the woman
if she would like to meet for coffee. The woman, expecting his wife and
other friends would join them,had to refuse at that time because of
studying for midterms.  He gave her a call after midterms and invited her
out.  He called back and gave her a list of things they could do together
on her voice mail.  The dignified woman was concerned because she knew he
was married and wondered why he'd want to date her.  She did not return
the black souled man's call and he called again catching her at home.  He
was indignant and posessively presumptuous demanding where she had been
and he guessed all the choices he gave were out of the question for the
day.  She, amazed at the show, kept her calm, talked about what she had
done during the day and asked about his wife.  He didn't wish to dicuss it
(sooo tragic) and would tell her about it under other circumstances.  Well
of course she knew he wouldn't want to date her and she just wanted to
clear the air. He indignantly snapped that He had done all he could and if
she wanted to see him then she could call him. (Point of order: when she
had first agreed to have coffee with him, he started to act as if he had
accomplished something and wouls acheive something. She also detected that
she had become his property somehow)  Another violation of Kantian ethics
to say the least.

    Conclusion : this man is lower than scum on the bottom of a NYC
taxicab driver's shoe.

                     If him and his wife are having problems he needs to
work things out with her and if she has gone back to their country with
the baby because they both could not afford to live on campus, that does
not give him license to date.


  Finally, the respectable, dignified woman was going about her business
and she met up with another woman whom she hadn't seen around for a while
whom she had met when she worked in the university's bookstore.  This
particular woman is a narrow minded, unhappy woman with some family
problems who insists on making anyone who crosses her path unhappier than
she.  one day, when the dignified woman had done something that the people
who worked with her were not used to doing in the spirit of teamwork, the
wretched woman started crying outloud" look what she's doing! She's
keeping all those for herself and we have to do without." She made enough
noise that the co-workers instantly formed a dislike for the dignified
woman. No one reasoned that what was happening could have been beneficial
to all of them because it is easier to judge, sentence and get out the
noose.  The unhappy woman has not changed being constant in her wretched
ness. ( Point of order: the wretched woman did not let up with the
dignified woman but kept feeding the fires of animosity for the length of
time they both held the same job.  However this made the wretched woman
popular though she was never happy)

    Conclusion: The dinified woman hopes to avoid ever meeting with her
again.  There is no consolation for those refusing to be consoled.  the
wretched woman is well educated with much knowledge and therefore does not
need to reason. 
           ( yes, you guessed it, Kantian ethics bites the dust again)

      the defense rests and will be away for a while because of midterms.


Maggz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    "I am more than what you define and delienate me to be" Elizabeth
Wurtzel




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