You can start by stopping it in the class you are presently teaching like
I do. If for instance, a female student was about to answer a question,
but a male neanderthal interrupted her, you say 'Wait a minute, I do
believe Ms.- was trying to answer..' That is one example. If another
example, a female student thinks that it is OK for a man to interrupt her
own answer, then you say-"Dont you have anything to contribute?" It is
simple-it can start with ones own classroom, one's own training
session. You revolutionize the world in your own little way, in your own
little room.

Bertina
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On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, ginger spice wrote:

> Bertina wrote: I think that was my point all along. If a teacher or 
> >professor cannot handle a class because she fears she would be >unable 
> to stop or discourage deference then maybe she should rethink >the whole 
> teaching as a professiongig.
> 
> Gosh,where does one start with a statement like this?
> Deference to men is quite entrenched in Society, have you got a way to 
> stop it? If you have, please let me know.
> How about starting at primary school (I won't even get into a discussion 
> of pre-primary school). Do you know there have been studies done that 
> show teachers favour boys over girls in class
> (they spend more time with them) in co-ed schools and what about the 
> fact that often in senior classes, when boys are talking to the teachers 
> girls tend to stay quiet but when girls are speaking to the teacher, 
> boys often talk in the background (thus implying the boys questions are 
> more important). How is Mary Daly meant to stop an entrenched cultural 
> and sexist approach that is part of life by the time the students arrive 
> at her university classes. If her experience shows that women together 
> "soar" and find strengths and understanding that are not there when men 
> are present, why deprive them of this?
> I have a feminist friend who attended some all women classes and she 
> said they were brilliant and she got more out of them than any other 
> classes because the women were able to discuss matters without
> any males distracting from the issues involved. She said the comraderie 
> and understanding of issues in those classes was excellent and 
> recommended them to me. (And for anyone's information this is a 
> heterosexual feminist not a lesbian and she has 6 daughters) Anyone with 
> any understanding of male/female interaction would not expect the 
> lecturer to have to interfere and shepherd the issues away from 
> patriarchal influences as an ongoing part of teaching any class. 
> I cannot see that expecting Mary Daly to continually have to be
> treating the symptoms of deference and protectiveness as well as 
> accepting the limitations of discussions on patriarchy with men in the 
> room, would be beneficial to the class at all.
> GS
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