>Dear Kylie:
>
.if only your ideas could really be
>implemented. While I am in complete agreement with you, I don't think
>that the ever expanding global-capitalist system will allow for the
>implementation of the systemic environmental conservation/preservation
>needed to maintain our world.

Dear Jamie, thank you for your reply it makes me think of more realistic
ways of dealing with our (world) problem. What you say is of course true.
  But I believe that we cannot give up.  There is an old Chinese proverb -
A lake is filled with tiny drops of water - or words to that effect - the
point is that by doing something others may be encouraged to do something
and the whole thing could snowball.  For example we in, Perth Western
Australia, via local councils are recycling more refuse than that that is
left for landfill.  This started small - just a few odd 'greenies' and now
every self-respecting middle class person recycles.  I'm not saying that
this is enough.  It isn't.  But its in the right direction.  Get people
thinking green, sustainability and not sustainable growth which is silly
and irresponsible - it comes from our Prime Minister.  Sustainable
resources, not getting bigger and not wanting more.
Maybe the whole system would have to be changed to accomodate a sustainable
green society.  Social Justice ideas - equality for women, of class, of
place of birth and for indigenous people and other disadvantaged groups.
Radical change.  But I'm getting off the point.

What can we do now.  Set up recycling in your town if its not already in
place.  Bury your vegie scaps. Start a permaculture garden maybe even
involving a few people to share the workload.  Try to avoid unessessary
uses of fossil fuels and other poluting agents.  Put on  a pull-over or
jacket before turning on the heater.  Be aware of your energy use and try
to minimise it.  Go solar in as much as possible.  Write to polititians
about wanting the solar car developed - an extra 1c per litre tax on petrol
could fund this research.

Talk to people wherever you go about the importance of conservation.  For
those of you in America encourage people to a green way of thinking and
then encourage them to vote- and please vote yourself.  Don't vote for
non-green candidates, inform yourself of policy.


>just like the electricity used to power this computer is NOT solar, but
>was most likely derived from fossil fuels...
We need to minimise our power usage.  I don't think its realistic or would
bring anyone over to our cause if we said use no power and no products
which have explioted images of women or exploited workers etc etc.  We need
to look at cutting down as much as possible and being aware of what we are
consuming.

The Nestle boycott was a success -  They are no longer dumping milk powder
in third world countries.

So boycotting can be effective.  Try to use environmentally friendly
products where you can and be aware of the ozone layer.

the point I am attempting to
>make is that we all exploit the natural world to some degree. It is up to
>us, as women (who can more readily develop a critical consciousness based
>on our own history of oppression),

I think that we should not write men off I know quite a few who are ecofems
and who understand the issues involved.  Also not all womyn who experience
oppression are enlightened, some even subscribe to the patriarchy and we
must educate both.  But I do understand where your coming from it can seem
like that at times.

 to arrive at such realizations (like
>those you proposed) and do our best to communicate and educate others.

Yes we do.  Thats part of the cunning plan we must develop to sustain this
wonderful world we might have.

 What do
>you think? I welcome any and all feedback!

>Take care,
>
>Jaimie Ann Carboy

this is what i think.  sustain. model. educate.

Yours sustainably
Kylie.


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