Woah! I have to say, Joy, that I did not read Carol's message the way you did. I don't have the complete original message from Carol, but I did not read CAROL as being hostile to Paganism (in spite of her lack of capitalization). Rather, I thought she was asking how to overcome the prejudices of the wider society; a realistic and important question for any group with an alternative view of things to ponder (IMHO). Jayne
