Thanks to those who responded to my previous email (sharing an experience).  
I am glad that we can use this listserv as a forum for these issues.  Like 
Marnie, I was taken aback by Bob's response, although I know it was not 
written with ill intent.  I would like to hear more about the frustration 
with "trying ... to connect with women".  That could be a discussion in 
itself!  Why for art this frustration?

Anyway, I think I'll take the self-defense route, as I am moving to an even 
larger city this week.  It is a shame that one must take such drastic 
measures to enjoy simple pleasures...  After hearing about the student in 
Colorado, i now feel lucky.  Aside from this kind of news bringing great 
sorrow, it makes me want to HATE.  But I must choose LOVE because that's what 
the world needs to change, right?  

Questions:
***How do these particular men justify their actions?  Where do they get the 
nerve?***
They must assume it is their right to verbally, physically, or visually 
consume women.  I attended a presentation by Carol Smith called "The Sexual 
Politics of Meat" (also her book title) a while ago.  She had a fascinating 
perspective on the objectification of women in our society.  We buy and 
consume meat in flanks, ribs, legs, and gizzards, totally separate from the 
whole animal.  (I even know people who cannot stand bone or vein or skin 
connected to their meat.)  Just as it is comfortable for us to eat animals in 
spiritless parts, we (as a society) consume women in the same way.  Perfect 
lips, eyes, breasts of women are used in advertising to sell products.  What 
we do not want are the wrinkles, the unseemly hair, the fat, the blemishes - 
anything that we might recognize as HUMAN.  

***Can most injustice be attributed to speciesism?***  If certain living 
beings (whether it be women, native americans, african americans, plants or 
animals) aren't seen as being human, doesn't that justify ANY actions taken 
against them, even genocide, slavery and rape?  Isn't this how our society 
treats the earth?

Our relationship with nature permeates our society.  In the US, that 
relationship is abusive and exploitative.  Ecofeminism recognizes the strong 
connection between women and nature, whether 'natural' or socially 
constructed, and this can be used as a tool for empowerment and change.  Can 
we solve problems like rape by promoting respect for the earth? 

Thoughtfully,
Deana

Another little side story...
I met a man once who talked about golf.  He compared courses in Europe and 
America.  He said that in Europe the courses were wild as compared to those 
in the US, where the courses are very clean and pampered, no weeds or brown 
spots to get in the way of the *ball*.  (I have heard that women in Europe 
don't shave their legs.)  I almost blurted out sarcastically, "I'll bet 
that's how you like your women"!  But this was a friend's father and I didn't 
want to start a fight.  This is also the same (divorced) man who had earlier 
talked about his various girlfriends and which one he wanted to see that 
night, like he was thinking about what to have for dinner.

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