Dear Vicki,
You asked me why I said that it was a disillusionment? Well, this was
what Russell mentioned :
> With respect, I ask this in the hope of stimulating discussion:
> Isn't it a fairly common thread of ecofeminism to feel that "the
> fundamental problem of the human race" is first world (male-dominated/
> male-style) exploitation of the third world and the planet in general?
> Isn't lobbying congress just going to make them drop a batch of condoms
> from a helicopter over third world countries they are actively grinding
> into the dust? Put another way, isn't the solution going to involve a
> major paradigm shift that can't really happen through lobbying existing
> power structures?
That is, it seems that the approach of 'lobbying existing power structures'
is
going to get womenfolk a distorted result so in effect, I agreed with him
and
said "it is a disillusionment" of the way people in power and that would
mostly
be men, choose to play dumb and misinterpret women's requests for greater
rights so that they come out with second rated solutions : ) ...zis is
exactly
what I was trying to say!
Anyway, coming from Singapore, I do not really know much about
America's women's liberation movement besides what is read and what I
now get to read...things like 'color web for women'...etc seems to point to
the fact that you people are at the stage of 'Celebration of Women
Rights' , rather than the baser need to 'fight' for women rights. The
'space'
you all are having, half of the world's women are simply dreaming off....
In the east, for example, China, the womenfolk are known to be quite
'fierce'
and a capable woman is seen as one that controls the purse strings of her
husband (especially in southern China). I suppose it is thanks to MTT
(although
I am not personally a 'fan' of his) for saying that 'womenfolk holds up half
of heaven'
(a Chinese saying - makes me wonder which half he is talking about !!).
Therefore, apart from the minority vagrant wife beater that we find in all
cultures,
women in China are doing ok. The strange thing is in very 'market-oriented'
Hong Kong,
just take a look at every film produced, a majority of it gives the female
star the
role of a prostitute or akin to one...
The only place that women are not doing ok like in the army are probably
places
they shouldn't be in the first place! Sorry I ain't want a mother with a
machine gun,
I might be running to her for affection and get my brains blown off!
Women in realpolitik and the business arena ...hmmmm....if I am not mistaken
it is perceived that they are usually protrayed as 'bitches', 'prostitutes'
......
and that is very sad IF the woman politician or business woman has to face
all these remarks because she happened to be a woman. Of course, if
she does behave like that then one has to dwell deeper to see if the
'culture'
in these arenas compelled women to act this way to stay in power or in the
world
of $$$, namely, if they don't play within the rules that men has set since
they
were there first, they don't get to play. Again I suppose this applies to
those women
whom, with sheer effort and intelligence, made it to where they are now....
and not by status
if they are the daughter of Margaret Thatcher, as an example, or Queen
Elizabeth or
some nobility, the tables are turned......
'nuf said! Have I occupied too much e-space! For discussion sake. Have a
nice day!
Regards,
Eeling
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> From: vikki charles[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 8:00 PM
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> Subject: Re: Society for Human Population Control
>
> I don't understand why you think it's a disillusionment.
> The more people realise what is necessary the better.
> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:24:11 +1100 Russell Edwards
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 04:38:15PM +0800, Wong Ee Ling wrote:
> > > For some reason Russell makes perfect sense. What a disillusionment.
> >
> > Why is it a disillusionment?
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Eeling @ Zin
> > > Singapore
> >
> > Russell
> > (Melbourne)
> >
>
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> vikki charles
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