"attaining sustainability is unfeasible if you want to include 6 billion
people.
There is no single technical or financial fix."

Since sustainability relates to carrying capacity, either we attain a level
of sustainability that provides economic and ecological justice for all or
else a new level will be imposed on us by the forces of nature -- and that
new level of sustainability will be disastrous for the human species.

"The best hope for the future is (I think) to grow in human solidarity and
renounce all forms
of violence -- physical, psychological, economic, ecological, etc."

I wholeheartedly agree.

Warren Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luis Gutierrez
Sent: Monday, 13 March, 2006 15:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SUSTAINABILITY Definition needed? Re: Solidarity &
Sustainability V2 N3 March 2006


Leah Gibbons and Brandon Yarborough wrote:

> Talking about what "sustainability" means is important, but what is more
important is
> that we actually DO IT! Does anyone know of any people, businesses,
governments,
> societies, cultures actually practicing sustainability? I recently learned
of an
> incredible concept and company helping people live sustainably. So far,
this is the best
> example I have seen and is what I believe to be the best hope for our
future. Check it
> out at www.mbdc.com. Something you won't find on this website is one of
the company's
> most recent projects--a totally sustainable city built for 2 million
people. Amazing!!
> If it can be done at all, it can be done world-wide. It's only a matter of
how badly we
> want it.

Hello Leah and Brandon,

I am familiar with the excellent work of architect William McDonough,
but I doubt that "If it can be done at all, it can be done world-wide.
It's only a matter of how badly we want it."  Just as we cannot reverse
the law of gravity no matter how much we might wish to do so, attaining
sustainability is unfeasible if you want to include 6 billion people.
There is no single technical or financial fix.  The best hope for the
future is (I think) to grow in human solidarity and renounce all forms
of violence -- physical, psychological, economic, ecological, etc.

Luis

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