Dear Alan

It would seem to me a better choice to use a Mantel
test since you are looking at a specific contrast, if
I remember PCOrd does that, if you are looking for
software (they also publish a good general book on the
subject)




--- Alan Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am gathering data this summer on species
> abundances beneath 1) plots 
> covered by Ailanthus altissima and 2) plots not
> covered by Ailanthus.  I 
> will have replicate plot data from 4 different
> sites.  I would like to 
> explore the possibility that different species or
> species types (e.g. 
> vines) may be more abundant under Ailanthus or more
> likely to be found 
> under Ailanthus.  I will have little information
> about differences between 
> plots and sites aside from Ailanthus presence /
> absence and light levels.  
> Even then, light levels will probably vary little
> between plots.
> 
> I've been sifting through a variety of information
> on ordination as it may 
> relate to plant community data.  If I understand
> correctly, some 
> ordination process may be able to tell me if
> Ailanthus plots cluster 
> together on an ordination axis.  Michael Palmer, on
> his ordination for 
> ecology website, presents a dataset organized by
> species in rows 
> and "sites" in the columns.  This would be one way I
> might organize my 
> data.  My difficulty is in understanding the
> differences between the many 
> different ordination techniques and how to choose
> which technique is 
> appropriate for our current task.
> 
> I look forward to any suggestions from the list.
> 
> Alan Griffith
> Department of Biological Sciences
> University of Mary Washington
> 


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