Brit... We have captive-bred red and yellow-footed tortoises. People are quite surprised to see how much "personality" they have after spending some time around them.
Remember also, Steven Spielberg made a trip to Galapagos and the tortoise breeding project at the Darwin Station on Isla Santa Cruz prior to coming up with his famous E.T. character. Coincidence....I don't think so! Thanks. Mike Nolan Call weekdays, evenings and weekends. Leave your phone number/best time to return your call and/or your e-mail address if we are on another line or away from our phones. Sincerely, J. Michael Nolan, Director Rainforest and Reef 501 (c)(3) non-profit ************************************************************************************ "Outstanding-Affordable Field Courses in Rainforest & Marine Ecology" "Spanish Immersion offered in Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Panama, Bolivia, Ecuador and Peru" Web: http://iwanttolearnspanish.org (being updated for 07) United States: Rainforest and Reef 501 (c)(3) non-profit P.O. Box 141543 Grand Rapids, Michigan 49514-1543 USA Phone: 1.616.604.0546 Toll Free: 1.877.255.3721 Skype Phone: mikenolan1 Live Chat and Phone MS Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Live Chat AOL: buddythemacaw E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.rainforestandreef.org Latin America: P.O. Box 850-1150 San José, Costa Rica, Central America Att: Juan Pablo Bello C. Program Director, Latin America Phone: 011.506.290.8883/011.506.822.8222 (Cell)/Fax: 011.506.290.8883 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Europe: Att: Marion Stephan Frankfurt, Germany Phone: 011.49.172.448.3899 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************************ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Britton Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: correction: it appears that California laws do require permits to possess herps > Yes, the most pressing herp being the very protected desert tortoise. > > Many construction monitoring projects I have been on as project biologist > require measures to be in place for the protection of fence lizards, > iguanas, and in particular some rare snakes such as the San Francisco > garter > snake, whose protection was the cyclonic center of activity last year on a > controversial gig in the bay area. > > I work with the DT (desert tortoises) quite a bit and have a strong > allegiance for their protection. To me they are more of a philosophical > animal. One that is symbolic. Lots of herps are that way (not to say birds > aren't incredibly symbolic) but reptiles to me have such an ancient > presence > that their protection seems like protecting the living history of the > earth. > Birds especially raptors, have had more close contact with humans. > Reptiles > need to be protected not because of our relationship to them, but on the > basis of awe and magnificence of their existence. > > We tend to like the animals that readily acknowledge us, tortoises hardly > ever notice me, but I continue to act as their steward because caring for > them brings so much joy and depth to my life. > > My 2 cents. > -Brit > > . > > > On 9/28/06, stan moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Folks -- >> >> I probably should have done a little research on the specifics of >> protections of herps, such as fence lizards, etc., before making my >> previous >> posting with comments on possession of California herps. I just did a >> Google search out of curiosity and came a cross a California herps >> website >> which includes disclaimers against offering legal advice, but also lists >> and >> quotes some California regulations on the possession of reptiles and >> amphibians. The website is at: >> >> http://www.californiaherps.com/info/herpinglaws.html >> >> >> The gyst of the regs as I saw them on this website is that a California >> sport fishing license is required to possess common reptiles and >> amphibians, >> even when there are no limits to possession. I think this is generally a >> good policy, although I don't know if the public is generally aware of >> it. >> Obviously, listed (imperiled) species are treated differently, with no >> permits issued for sport take. >> >> Thanks to all for the interesting, informative and sometimes entertaining >> private replies I have received from this thread of discussion. And >> please, >> California residents -- don't go grabbing wild herps in California under >> the >> (mis)understanding based on my erroneous comments that no permits are >> required to do so! >> >> >> >> Stan Moore San Geronimo, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > -- > In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts; they come > back to us with a certain alienated majesty. > - Ralph Waldo Emerson >
