Folks --

I thought it was interesting that the California Herps website mentioned 
"protected" and "non-protected" herps, which meaning is still somewhat 
unclear to me and worthy of additional investigation.  But a look at the 
California Fish and Game Code makes it abundantly clear that possession of 
all herps within California, along with other wildlife forms, is regulated 
by the Fish and Code; therefore my statement that the government of 
California does not care about possession of herps was  wrong and 
illustrated ignorance of the issue on my part.

There are special protections of all animals listed in California as 
endangered species, threatened species, species of special concern, fully 
protected species, etc., which may be what the Cal Herps website were 
thinking of when they referred to "protected" species, such as the San 
Francisco garter snake, the desert tortoise, etc., which are listed on the 
state list of endangered species and thus obviously protected.  And I might 
say that I am fully supportive of efforts to protect such species, including 
the desert tortoise, and I am highly impressed and appreciative of the work 
of the Center for Biological Diversity and others (including Federal and 
state politicians) in working to protect and recover desert tortoises and 
other imperiled taxa within the state.

Below is the actual wording from the California Fish and Game Code (in part) 
which states the general policy of the Code towards possession of wildlife, 
including common and rare/endangered reptiles and amphibians (and the code 
continues after that paragraph to specifically describe the "rules" of 
possession of all these wildlife forms), and I also note that I do not 
necessarily see the word "native" in the wording, which could be 
significant.

CALIFORNIA FISH AND GAME CODE
2000. It is unlawful to take any bird, mammal, fish, reptile, or amphibian 
except as provided in this code or regulations made pursuant thereto. 
Possession of a bird, mammal, fish, or reptile or parts thereof in or on the 
fields, forests, or waters of this state, or while returning therefrom with 
fishing or hunting equipment is prima facie evidence the possessor took the 
bird, mammal, fish or reptile or parts thereof...



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