Anne Marie - So too should be a reference to Environmental Concern Inc. 
(www.wetland.org) located in St. Michaels, MD. Each year, EC offers many 
wetland trainings including basic delineation and advanced delineation. Bronwyn 
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Bronwyn Mitchell  
Education Director  
Environmental Concern Inc.  
www.wetland.org  
ph. (410) 745-9620  

 
 
On 2006-11-08 at 19:33, Dave Thomson wrote:  
> Annemarie,  
>  
> Sorry I didn't catch your post sooner, but this course should be in  
> your summary. You might want to look at the course offered thru The  
> Olentangy River Wetland Research Park at Ohio State University:  
>  
> http://swamp.osu.edu/ShortCourse.html#course2  
>  
> This is the research center of (none other than) William Mitsch, who  
> takes part in the course. The chief instructor is Ralph Tiner, who was  
> the principal author on the 1989 wetlands delineation manual. You can  
> read more about him and the other instructors at that link, or search  
> for his books on the subject at Amazon.com.  
>  
> I took the WTI course, and it was a fine introduction to the topic. I  
> would have liked to take the OSU course, but I couldn't impress upon  
> the folks here the importance of who is teaching. Anyways, some  
> information and a few links for you:  
>  
> Here is the 1987 manual that is currently used:  
> http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/permit/documents/87manual.pdf  
>  
> I am sorry to say that I can no longer find a download link for the  
> 1989 manual: "Federal Manual for Delineating Jurisdictional Wetlands.  
> An Interagency Cooperative Publication" - I have an electronic copy if  
> anyone is interested.  
>  
> And here is a summary of why the 1989 manual is not in use:  
> http://www.water.ncsu.edu/watershedss/info/wetlands/contro3.html  
>  
> Here was a new one for me: a draft of the Arid West's Delineation  
> Manual: http://www.usace.army.mil/cw/cecwo/reg/Arid%20West%20draft.pdf  
>  
> Plenty more relevant documents available on the web... you should read  
> as much as possible. Wetlands regulation is a complex subject, and  
> there are many folks out there (on both sides of the fence) who would  
> like to "interpret" the fray for you. One of the best resources on  
> some current issues is a special issue of the journal Wetlands on  
> SWANCC issues:  
>  
> http://www.sws.org/wetlands/toc/TOCV23n3.html  
>  
> But now there are new issues from the recent Rapanos/Carabell Supreme  
> Court Case (delineation verifications are currently on hold if they  
> involve vegetated wetlands - as opposed to Section 10 or Other Waters  
> only). A friend's response was "One step forward, and two steps back."  
>  
>  
> I should also point out that MOU between USACE and NRCS (USDA) was  
> rescinded. I do not know the details of the split, but if you are  
> interested in performing delineations with or for them (i.e. Farm Bill  
> issues) you may need training on their methods.  
>  
> Best of luck, David  
>  
> -----Original Message----- From: Ecological Society of America: grants,  
> jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Annemarie  
> Smith Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:07 PM To:  
> [email protected] Subject: Wetland Delineation Training  
>  
> More than a few people emailed me to ask if I would share the responses  
> to my inquiry on Wetland Delineation training. Here are all the  
> responses I received. Thanks to everyone who contributed. Annemarie  
> Smith  
>  
> I and several of my staff have gone through the Wetland Training  
> Institute Course. The course gives you an adequate start and the  
> instructors are knowledgeable and entertaining. The course is only a  
> start though and the rest requires experience with wetland conditions  
> in you area and in working with ACE employees to know what they expect  
> you to do in the field (number of pits, etc) and the documentation they  
> require in your reports. If you have taken college courses in wetlands  
> and soils and have an ability to identify plant species the course will  
> seem a little symplistic. In reality, all you need to learn is to apply  
> basic science to regulations. Hydrology, GIS and GPS experience will  
> greatly help when you start doing delineations and good project  
> mangement skills are needed to budget projects. John  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  
>  
> I have taken a series of courses through the continuing education  
> program at Rutgers. I have also attended a course at Ohio State taught  
> by Bill Mitsch and some of his colleagues. I highly recommend either or  
> both of these. It seems to me that courses offered by commercial  
> organizations are considerably more expensive than those at academic  
> institutions. I wonder if the commercial programs are worth the expense.  
>  
> Ken Kerrick  
>  
> As a newly full-time wetland ecologist in the natural resources  
> consulting arena, I participated in the "Wetland Delineation (Emphasis  
> on Soils and Hydrology)" course by Wetland Training Institute  
> (http://www.wetlandtraining.com) in 1995. My instructors (Bob Pierce,  
> Charlie Newling, and Blake Parker; see "Bios" on WTI's webpage) were  
> very professional, have been in the business of wetland ecology and  
> regulation a long time, and were very good instructors. I see that all  
> three remain on staff, and I would again take a wetland regulatory  
> course with these instructors.  
>  
> Good luck, Jason S. Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  
>  
> I've used Wetland Training Institute, PO Box 31, Glenwood, NM 88039  
> 1-877-792-6482, www.wetlandtraining.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  
> It's a little expensive, but the instructors have a wealth of knowledge.  
>  
> Good luck! Caroline C. Hinkelman  
>  
>  
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Caroline C. Hinkelman Wildlife  
> Biologist/Environmental Specialist Advanced Project Development Office  
> Lubbock District 135 Slaton Road Lubbock, TX 79404-5201 Office:  
> 806-748-4410 Fax: 806-748-4312  
>  
> I took the wetland delineation course through the wetland training  
> institute (www.wetlandtraining.com) this past spring and was happy with  
> it. the wetland training institute has a really good reputation. it was  
> a week-long course in sacramento (but they offer courses all over the  
> country). in contrast to that, I've heard that the richard chinn course  
> is terrible so that may be one to avoid.  
>  
> hope that helps! amy langston  
>  
> I recently attended the Basic Wetland Delineator Training course  
> offered by the Institute for Wetland & Environmental Education &  
> Research. I had no prior knowledge of the subject, other than a  
> reasonable familiarity of the hydrophytic vegetation. I found the  
> course very educational, well presented and involved a good mix of  
> classroom and field exercises. The Institute requires that you pass a  
> take home exam in order to receive a certificate of training. This was  
> a challenging exercise, but it does make you learn the material. I was  
> very satisfied with this course and the cost is less than others that I  
> found on the internet. I am in Florida and the instructors were  
> knowledgeable of Piedmont and Coastal Plains areas of the Southeast.  
> Depending on where you live, you may have different instructors, but  
> the course syllabus is set by the Institute. I would recommend that  
> you go to their webpage and check it out. www.wetlanded.com  
>  
> Good luck Rick Walker Rick Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

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