http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

That aside, I should add that the "toppled" seedling were planted in
full sunlight and their nearest neighbors (all plantings) averaged 10
feet away (i.e. zero shading).  

I was told the Coast Live Oaks (Quercus agrifolia) seedlings perfer to
grow in shade, so perhaps they are not adapted to full wind?  Just
trying to think of alternate hypotheses... I assume that you do not have
much to say about the influence of agricultural conditions on native
trees in their natural setting?  

Sounds like you know a bit about trees, so thank you for participating, 

David Thomson


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Jonathan,

In reply to your question and to David Thomson's comments:

...

Regarding tree biomechanics (which truly have little to do with the
growth rate of great danes) - it is only occassionally that growth rate,
by itself, significantly effects wood strength (MOE, modulus of
elasticity). To the extent that some species growth rate is positively
correlated earlywood/latewood ratio, wood with more earlywood will tend
to have less strength.  In the case of the oaks, though, fast growth
rates tend to increase latewood production and hence increase density
and MOE. Furthermore, saplings toppling over does not happen due to
growth rate directly, but is more likely related to stem taper - as
influenced by spacing and competition for light.  If some species or
individuals are intense competition for light (possibly species that
grew the fastest when planted under a constant, but too small a
spacing), they will tend to have less taper and will be less stable
under mechanical loading. 

...

Cheers,

Steve Voelker
Oregon State University
Wood Science & Engineering
Forest Science 

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