I think a scholarly review for Frontier in Ecology and the Environment 
would also be very useful.
-Tim Nuttle

Maiken Winter wrote:
> Thanks for the idea, Cliff. It would be great if a summary were posted on
> a place accessable to all kinds of ecologists.  In addition, I would
> suggest to also try to send the article to newspapers, to also inform the
> general public that do not have access to or know of the ESA blog.
> There are a lot of people out there that are better informed on this
> subject than myself. But if nobody volunteers, I could do the summary next
> month. But I would be happy not to, if somebody with more expertice in
> this area wants to take the lead.
> Maiken
>
>   
>> Cliff Duke's offer to post a summary of the ethanol string on ESA's blog
>> (see below) is an excellent idea. Let's do it. I can't take the lead on
>> this, but would be happy to help out, especially in summarizing concerns
>> related to impacts on biodiversity.
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Cliff Duke<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>   To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>   Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:02 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Energy Biofuels Brainstorming then evaluating for policy
>> development Stubbling on marginal issues Re: switchgrass concerns
>>
>>
>>   Not to steal any thunder from ECOLOG, but I'd be glad to post a couple
>>   of contributions from this thread on ESA's blog, ESA News and Views.
>>   Perhaps a couple of you might be willing to synthesize some of the
>>   thoughts that have appeared here into pieces of 1000-1500 words length?
>>   If you're not familiar with ESA N&V yet, check out
>> www.esa.org/esablog<http://www.esa.org/esablog>;
>>   contributions can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>>
>>   Let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>>   -- Cliff Duke, Coordinator, ESA News and Views
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
>>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
>>   Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:11 PM
>>   To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>   Subject: Energy Biofuels Brainstorming then evaluating for policy
>>   development Stubbling on marginal issues Re: switchgrass concerns
>>
>>   At 12:29 AM 2/3/2007, Palmer, Mike wrote:
>>   >Anyone who has set, managed, or fought fires in switchgrass can attest
>>   >to this, and fire danger must be considered.
>>   >However, it is a little bit of a red herring.  A hay meadow (with
>>   >switchgrass as one component) will be mowed late in the season, so
>>   >there will not be a lot of standing fuel when there is the most fire
>>   risk.
>>
>>   Mike and Forum:
>>
>>   As one who has fought stubble fires as well as forest fires, there does
>>   not have to be a LOT of standing fuel to carry fire.  Of course, this is
>>   a marginal issue, and as such should not be factored into any reasoned
>>   analysis upon which policy conclusions might be based.  The CRUCIAL
>>   fundamental that is commonly overlooked in systems analysis is that the
>>   weakest link GOVERNS ABSOLUTELY.  This does not mean that such marginal
>>   issues should not be considered at all--only that their marginal nature
>>   needs to be recognized and evaluated during the evaluation phase.
>>
>>   I picked this issue as an excellent example of a brainstorming
>>   item--which always should be encouraged--and to suggest how evaluation
>>   of the products of the brainstorming phase might be initiated.  Of
>>   course, I, nor anyone else, should have the final word in the evaluation
>>   phase, and when proper discipline is observed in the development of
>>   system (or policy) design, minority analyses should be included in the
>>   final project documentation.
>>
>>   I hope that this forum will continue the excellent line of brainstorming
>>   thought, and to proceed to a well-documented analysis and set of policy
>>   recommendations that can be a potent means of affecting policy in the
>>   larger contexts of various levels of government and public interest
>>   action.  This can be done by organizing the content of the emails on
>>   this subject, participating in a disciplined analytical procedure, and
>>   focusing the group's energy with vigor in the right places.  You can
>>   expect that those feeding at the switchgrass trough, however, will be in
>>   vigorous opposition--that's just one reason why the ideas must be
>>   allowed to flow freely, disciplined analysis carried out, and the final
>>   report include minority statements (if the minority cares to include
>>   them).
>>
>>   But the most important thing is that critical thinking is not sacrificed
>>   to political maneuvering.
>>
>>   Respectfully submitted,
>>   WT
>>
>>   Mike: I will be interested in your further thoughts and corrections on
>>   the "red herring" point.
>>
>>     
>
>   

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