"Mexico is in the grip of the worst tortilla crisis in its modern history.
Dramatically rising international corn prices, spurred by demand for the
grain-based fuel ethanol, have led to expensive tortillas."  Washington
Post, 27 Jan 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/26/AR2007012601
896_pf.html

Warren Aney
(503)246-8613

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: Friday, 23 March, 2007 09:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: ENERGY Efficiency (my posterior) Re: ethanol competiing
directly with world food supply / driving up prices


No mention of the net energy calculations or references to data--if
there are any!  "Cost" data, in particular, should include direct and
indirect industry subsidies in addition to the direct and indirect
energy cycle effects.  I smell fifth columns and a "giant sucking
sound."  One "research group" representative declared that some
number in the billions of "gallons" (no BTU's or other equivalent
measure was mentioned) of ethanol could be produced from
"switchgrass" and other "cellulosic" materials--but no mention of the
effects of such production on ecosystems and not even the simple
arithmetic of how much acreage would be required.  And, of course, no
mention of the energy and resources required to produce, distribute,
and put such energy to "useful" work.  What kind of
taxpayer-supported subsidies are going to Archer-Daniels Midland
(ADM) an other corporate entities now, and what kind are in the works
or will be in the works when this shell-game finally shakes
out?  (Can you spell "overruns?")

Of the 6,000-plus ECOLOG subscribers, how many think ethanol
production, particularly as an end product rather than a by-product,
is a significant "solution" to "the energy crisis" and how many think
it is a juicy pork-barrel (or something else) AND upon what
scientific or evidentiary basis?

WT

At 07:26 PM 3/22/2007, stan moore wrote:
>In the article linked to below, note that automobile drivers and their
>demand for sustainable fuels are "driving" the market towards distilled
>grains as fuels.  Many of the world's poorest humans rely on grains as
>staples in their food supply, and the pressure on world grain supplies will
>impact poor humans disproportionately, but the cost of grain-fed meats will
>rise, too.
>
>How much additional wildland will be put into grain production, at the cost
>of habitat for wild flora and fauna?  How many forests will be cut down?
>How sustainable can this transition be?  What is the relationship between
>saving greenhouse gases by switching fuels to the ecological cost of
>deforestation and thus removing natural systems for carbon dioxide removal?
>
>An interesting article by Lester Brown of the Earth Policy Institute can be
>linked to at:
>
>http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=2981
>
>
>
>Stan Moore      San Geronimo, CA       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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