Wirt Atmar writes:  ". . . opinions . . . of=20
authoritative approval seems still eminently=20
requisite."*  Thanks to him for the links.

Should any scientist give a damn about any=20
opinion, authoritative or otherwise?  Isn't the=20
crux of science to provide an antidote for mere=20
opinion?  Even (especially) that of Eminent=20
Authorities?  Of course, I fear I may be treading=20
too close to the marrow here, so keep the=20
mortarboards and the pretty colors on black=20
cloaks and just stick producing the antidote in=20
increasingly potent remedies for "ignorance in action."

WT

PS: As to the book, sounds like a long-winded=20
generic whiner-potboiler to me . . .  The very=20
point that so many have made here so much better=20
than I is that given open exposure, the real=20
cream will rise to the top, whilst the heavier=20
and heavier brown stuff will sink, at long last,=20
to the bottom, regardless of length.  It seems=20
that the point of Foley and others is that given=20
open exposure, fraudulent as well as elegant=20
science and other products of honest intellectual=20
exploration will suffer or gain from that=20
exposure.  It's nothing new that the Internet is=20
flooded with all kinds of misleading bazz-fazz,=20
but that very phenomenon should lead to healthy=20
skepticism rather than Authority-worship, and=20
that will "make all the difference."

*Nothing said here is intended to relate to any=20
particular person, living or dead; these remarks=20
are intended to stand the test of relevance to issues, not personalities.


At 02:44 PM 5/22/2007, Wirt Atmar wrote:
>Bill Silvert writes:
>
> > I think that Patrick Foley has the right idea=20
> - let's just put our ideas out
> > there for everone to criticise.
>
>This is an important topic, and it's not one=20
>just debated in ecological circles.
>Every scientific and technical discipline is repeating the debate. In that
>regard, let me offer three opinions somewhat contrary to Bill's and=
 Patrick's.
>The first comes from Charles Cooper, editor of=20
>C|Net, an on-line technical site
>for computer professionals in the Bay Area. Cooper wrote just a month ago:
>
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>
>Web 2.0--the folly of amateurs?
>
>By Charles Cooper
>http://news.com.com/Web+2.0-the+folly+of+amateurs/2010-1025_3-6173903.html
>
>Story last modified Fri Apr 06 05:21:42 PDT 2007
>
>Andrew Keen doesn't fit the profile of your garden-variety bomb thrower.=
 But
>make no mistake about this erudite British-born entrepreneur: He is out to
>rattle Silicon Valley and the geekerati by detonating many of the=
 comfortable
>myths attending the Web 2.0 era.
>
>In a deliciously subversive new book, "The Cult=20
>of the Amateur," which debuts in
>June, Keen recounts the many ways in which technology is remaking our=
 culture
>and society...
>
>The subtitle of his book states his thesis=20
>bluntly: "How the democratization of
>the digital world is assaulting our economy, our culture, and our values."
>
>Keen bemoans the advent of "an endless digital forest of mediocrity" as the
>number of new blogs doubles each six months.=20
>Them be fighting words, to be sure,
>and Keen is being purposely provocative. But he's worth reading. Keen's not
>writing from the uninformed point of view of a technophobe. In his previous
>life, he was the founder of Audiocafe.com. That said, he's not at all happy
>about where things are headed, bemoaning the advent of "an endless digital
>forest of mediocrity" as the number of new blogs=20
>doubles each six months. Here's
>a typical snippet:
>
>"If we keep up this pace, there will be over=20
>five hundred million blogs by 2010,
>collectively corrupting and confusing popular opinion about everything from
>politics, to commerce, to arts and culture [and=20
>especially science]. Blogs have
>become so dizzyingly infinite, that they've=20
>undermined our sense of what is true
>and what is false, what is real and what is imaginary. These days, kids=
 can't
>tell the difference between credible news by=20
>objective professional journalists
>and what they read on joeshmoe.blogspot.com."
>
>Keen finds little to celebrate in the rising cult of the amateur. Same for=
 the
>emerging age of citizen journalism, and he frets=20
>about the growing influence of
>short-form bloggers at the expense of the wisdom=20
>of long-form essays of scholars
>and experts. He worries about the wisdom-of-the-crowd phenomena represented=
 by
>the likes of Wikipedia or YouTube and the impact=20
>they're having on an ADD-prone
>generation that embraces editor-free news sites.=20
>Technology is our friend? Don't
>kid yourself, is Keen's response. The crowd has often proved itself to be
>anything but wise. We may have strong opinions but so many of us remain
>uninformed.
>
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>
>The second opinion comes from Matt Cartmill of the Duke's Biological
>Anthropology Department. Before reading the article below I only knew=
 Cartmill
>by this quote of his, which is one of my favorites:
>
>"As an adolescent I aspired to lasting fame, I craved factual certainty,=
 and I
>thirsted for a meaningful vision of human life - so I became a scientist.=
 This
>is like becoming an archbishop so you can meet girls."
>
>Cartmill's father is famous among science-fiction devotees, and he talks=
 about
>not only that fame but the subject at hand in a=20
>"View on Science" note he wrote
>in the American Journal of Physical Anthropolgy seven years ago. The full=
 text
>of his note is at:
>
>http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/73500863/PDFSTART
>
>I've copied the most relevant parts of his note here:
>
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>
>Twenty years ago, the only way to secure a=20
>worldwide audience for a new idea or
>discovery was to get it into a prestigious international journal. Nowadays,
>anyone who knows how to set up a Web site can secure a worldwide audience=
 in a
>few hours. And an on-line journal is just another Web site. The potential
>audience for an article in Nature on line is exactly the same as that for=
 an
>article posted on the Web by the kid down the=20
>block =97 namely, anyone, anywhere,
>any time, who wants to read it. The kid down the block may even have a few
>advantages over the Nature Publishing Group: he can track new trends and
>technologies more rapidly, and people can read his stuff for free.
>
>The 21st century is going to be the golden age of samizdat =97=
 self-publication.
>We ought to welcome this development. It makes=20
>more sense to circulate ideas by
>pushing electrons than by moving millions of tons of paper around. And the
>democratization of discourse that the Internet=20
>makes possible is a good thing in
>itself, at least in principle. But the new regime also poses some big=
 problems
>for science and education. For one thing, the Internet makes it possible=
 for
>holders of any minority opinion to attain critical mass by pulling=
 themselves
>together into a worldwide virtual community. The result is likely to be an
>unending fragmentation of once-shared concerns=20
>and consensuses. (This process is
>evident today on the World Wide Web, where sites=20
>devoted to wild-eyed conspiracy
>theories, loony alternative therapies, and weird=20
>sexual idiosyncracies multiply
>and diversify with dizzying speed.) This sort of fragmentation is bound to
>strengthen the centrifugal forces that work to partition science into
>specializations of infinitely narrowing focus.=20
>Before 2100, we may find the AAPA
>broken up into a meteoric swarm of tiny bits, each with its own=
 idiosyncratic
>agenda, theories, Web site, on-line journal, and virtual annual meeting.=
 The
>recent history of the American Anthropological=20
>Association gives us some idea of
>where this process might lead.
>
>Another big problem is that the Internet=20
>bypasses all the traditional mechanisms
>of quality control. In the past, readers could feel fairly confident that
>scientific ideas and claims that made it into the worldwide distribution
>networks had passed through a stringent review, which could be counted on=
 to
>detect and throw out defective items. Now we=20
>have to deal with the kid down the
>block, who can reach an indefinitely large audience with an on-line journal
>purveying any sort of craziness he favors. This is a whole new ballgame, in
>which Web users have no umpires =97 no=20
>institutionalized structures of authority =97
>to help them tell line drives from foul balls.
>
>Authority is becoming an increasingly rare and=20
>valuable commodity, and it is one
>of the few things that a scientific society like the AAPA has to sell. For
>seventy years, our Association has served the=20
>discipline ofphysical anthropology
>by assuring that there would be a widely read journal of high quality that
>covered all aspects of our science, and by=20
>sponsoring an annual meeting at which
>physical anthropologists could come together to get to know each other and
>exchange ideas. But the Internet is becoming an environment in which these
>services could be carried out in other ways =97 for example, by=
 establishing Web
>sites on which articles and posters can be displayed for free general=
 access,
>linked to electronic bulletin boards or chat groups for discussion and
>evaluation. In this new environment, the student needs some means of
>distinguishing meritorious claims, which have=20
>passed these sorts of trials, from
>baseless fancies and obsessions hung out on the Web by cliques of=
 enthusiasts.
>No builder of Web sites or publisher of journals can provide this sort of
>warrant. It takes a community of scientists to establish and maintain the
>structures of authority in their discipline. We need to think about=
 building
>some new ones for physical anthropology =97 and=20
>about what we would like to get in
>exchange.
>
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>
>Finally, the third opinion comes in the form of=20
>new requirements for publishing
>on ArXiv (pronounced "archive"; the "X" is the Greek letter Chi), a=
 preprint
>server for physicists, astronomers and astrophysicists.
>
>Physicists are a much smaller community than=20
>biologists, or even a subgroup such
>as ecologists. Long before the advent of the internet, it was their habit=
 to
>pass around mimeographed copies of their papers=20
>before they were even submitted
>to journals, and they were often referenced in that form.
>
>With the arrival of the internet, one physicist at Los Alamos, on his own
>initiative, set up a small server under his desk to perform the same=
 service.
>Ultimately, that server came to be so important to the community that the
>server's contents were duplicated at a half=20
>dozen mirror sites around the world
>and the project was begun to be financed by NSF and DOE. It's now run out=
 of
>permanently staffed office at Cornell:
>
>http://arxiv.org/
>
>and it has extended its range of subjects a bit.
>
>Virtually everything that's published in these fields is also made=
 available
>here first, at no charge. The same papers appear in archived journals=
 later,
>with all of their access fees and page charges, but both mechanisms play an
>important role. One provides open access. The other quality assurance.
>
>Originally, anyone could upload anything on the preprint server, but when=
 its
>presence was discovered by the kooks, cranks and loonies of the world, the
>governing board found that they too had to=20
>institute a form of peer-review a few
>years ago. The papers submitted now aren't read or reviewed for content or
>quality, but they do have to be either written by someone who has been=
 deemed
>authoritative or endorsed by such a person before they can be uploaded now:
>
>http://arxiv.org/help/endorsement
>
>For older documents, a separate process exists.=20
>NASA and the Harvard-Smithsonian
>Center for Astrophysics have teamed together to scan in every paper written=
 in
>essentially every journal prior to 1995-2006 (dependent on the agreements=
 with
>the various journals), as you can see in their list of holdings here:
>
>http://adsabs.harvard.edu/journals_service.html
>
>If you're an astronomer or astrophysicist, there is no reason for you to=
 ever
>step foot in a library ever again. All of the astronomical literature is=
 now
>on-line, searchable and freely accessible to=20
>anyone, regardless of where in the
>world you are, and it obviously represents a tremendous resource.
>
>This is of course all that any of us want for ecology as well. But, as the
>opinions above express, some sense of authoritative approval seems still
>eminently requisite.
>
>Wirt Atmar

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