Dear Ecolog-gers 

One question has been bothered me for a while is to calculate a change point 
and its confidence intervals. We have used a conditional probability 
analysis to determine the probability of impairment, so the response 
variable is probability of impairment when an ecological attribute is less 
than certain value (e.g, native taxa<10), the predictor is a stressor 
gradient (e.g. chemical concentrations). In a peer reviewed paper, a 
deviance reduction approach was used to detect change point in the 
conditional probability analysis. 

I am particularly interested in using change point analysis to determine the 
threshold. However, several questions have bothered me and I hope you will 
have some insights on the analysis. 

1.       What is the underlying assumption for a deviance reduction 
analysis? The conditional probability (CP) is calculated based on a binomial 
distribution (impaired or not) and the response variable CP is basically a 
cumulative frequency of sample points. Therefore, each point of the response 
variable (CP) is not independent. Does that violate any assumption of 
independence for deviance reduction? 

2.       Also a chi-square test for deviance reduction significance test was 
proposed in Venables and Ripley (2002) book. Is the test applicable for the 
CP-stressor relationship? A bootstrapping technique was also proposed to 
calculate the CI of the change point for the CP? DO you think it makes sense 
when the y-axis is a discrete or binomial variable? 

SO THE REAL QUESTION is: ARE SIGNIFICANCE TEST AND BOOTSTRAPING CI 
APPLICABLE FOR CHANGE POINT IN A CONDITIONAL PROBABILITY~STRESSOR 
RELATIOSHIOP? 

Thanks, 

Lei 

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