RealClimate, the best groundtruther on this things, just did a nice analysis of the new release: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=480
Wil Dr. Wil Burns Senior Fellow, International Environmental Law Santa Clara University School of Law 500 El Camino Real, Loyola 101 Santa Clara, CA 95053 USA Phone: 408.551.3000 x6139 Mobile: 650.281.9126 Fax: 408.554.2745 [EMAIL PROTECTED] SSRN Author Page: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=240348 International Environmental Law Blog: http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/intlenvironment/ -----Original Message----- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Harp Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: misinformation portrayed as science My impression has been that one of the reasons ID/creation folks have been able to make inroads into school systems in the United States is a result of the strong local control of the education system (i.e., local school boards), their ability and dedication in inserting themselves in the local school system power structure, and their eloquence in arguing their ideas (and the lack thereof on the part of many in the science community, but that is another topic!). Not having experience with education systems outside of the United States, I would be interested in hearing what other people think about this idea. --Liz Christine Creese (Czerniak) wrote: > Speaking from experience as a 'canuck', there are some pretty extreme > christian fundamentalists in Canada, but thus far, creation science > has not penetrated the school system. Perhaps this is due in part to > the greater separation of church and state in Canada? > > Cheers, > Christine > > > Quoting "Olson, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> The mailings were also received at my school (Univ. of Wisc. Stevens >> Point). I can't help but wonder how much money this cost (and where the >> funding came from). >> >> Eric Olson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Silvert >> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:49 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: misinformation portrayed as science >> >> I was surprised to see Seitz's name associated with this nonsense, but a >> >> quick check on Wikipedia confirmed that he is one of the way-out >> skeptics >> (as well as on whether smoking causes cancer). This is a sad state of >> affairs. What gets into these people? >> >> I sometimes wonder whether this is a uniquely American phenomenon. I >> never >> ran into creationists and the like in Canada, and certainly not in >> Europe. >> There are lots of fanatical Europeans, but they seem to steer clear of >> scientific issues. >> >> Bill Silvert >> Portugal >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ruhland, Christopher T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:21 PM >> Subject: Re: misinformation portrayed as science >> >> >>> I (along with every other member of my department) received a mailing >>> >> that >> >>> = >>> included this "article " yesterday. The mailer included a petition >>> against= >>> climate change research. In addition there was a short letter from >>> >> Dr. >> >>> Fr= >>> ederick Seitz (former president of the National Academy of Sciences) >>> urging= >>> me to sign this petition. >>> -- Elizabeth Harp Program in Interdisciplinary Mathematics, Ecology, and Statistics Graduate Degree Program in Ecology Department of Biology Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ---------------------- http://rydberg.biology.colostate.edu/eharp/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-203-5462 ----------------------
