There is an interesting documentary - Crude Awakening - which is (to my
mind) a must-see discussion of peak oil and our dependence on the black
stuff.  Its available through Netflix.

Caren


On 10/24/07 6:10 PM, "WENDEE HOLTCAMP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say 2 reasons - one is that global warming is something that ecologists
> can study. Such as Lucas' study of the impact of global warming on pika and
> marmot. I'm not sure how you'd study peak oil in the same way, except maybe
> some theoretical models. Second -- An Inconvenient Truth catapulted the
> topic to national prominence and acceptance even among skeptics. I don't
> know of a similar effort on peak oil. In fact I know basically what it means
> but I don't know much more than that. Probably a lot of us are the same.
> 
> W.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joseph gathman
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:37 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Denial * 2: Climate Change and Economic
>> 
>> Speaking of denial, why does Global Warming always
>> generate so much response on this list, while Peak Oil
>> doesn't?  To my mind, they are both profoundly
>> important, both are "ecological" in some way (PO may
>> be more so), and both are happening now.
>> 
>> Maybe ecologists just don't know about PO, or haven't
>> considered what it really means (it's likely to be a
>> paradigm shift in human history with not-yet-explored
>> ramifications for the planet in general).  Certainly
>> there has been MUCH more buzz (and funding) about GW,
>> while PO is under the radar.  Is ecology really so
>> trend-driven that we can't see a huge issue in front
>> of our noses?
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>>> (While this is no place to elaborate, I have to at
>>> least note that, with=
>>>  a >90% fossil-fueled economy, and ceteris paribus,
>>> economic growth simp=
>>> ly =3D global warming.  And also that, with economic
>>> growth - increasing=
>>>  production and consumption of goods and services in
>>> the aggregate - pri=
>>> oritized in the domestic policy arena, dealing with
>>> climate change means=
>>>  not conservation and frugality but rather wholesale
>>> onlining of nuclear=
>>> , tar sands, mountaintop removing, etc., because, as
>>> Woolsey pointed out=
>>> , renewables such as solar and wind won=92t come
>>> anywhere near the level=
>>> s our currently fossil-fueled economy needs.)
>>>  =
>>> 
>>> So perhaps we could view "denial science" as lying
>>> on a spectrum, where =
>>> endpoints might be defined either in terms of
>>> hardness/softness of scien=
>>> ce (e.g., physics hard, climate change science
>>> medium, ecological econom=
>>> ics softish), or else in terms of political economy
>>> (e.g., from little t=
>>> o big money at stake).  Denial would tend to be
>>> motivated pursuant to pr=
>>> incipals of political economy, and gotten away with
>>> in proportion to the=
>>>  softness (or alternatively, complexity) of the
>>> science.
>>>  =
>>> 
>>>  =
>>> 
>>> Brian Czech, Visiting Assistant Professor =
>>> 
>>> Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
>>> Department of Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences
>>> National Capital Region, Northern Virginia Center
>>> 7054 Haycock Road, Room 411
>>> Falls Church, VA  22043 =
>>> 
>>>  =
>> 
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Caren E. Braby, PhD
University of Oregon
Oregon Institute of Marine Biology
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