Bill -- One correction there were mammals on Australia.  However, most 
were metatherians and not eutherians.  mas tarde, EJF



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I'll pick up on two of Wayne's points. One is that "some aliens that do 
little harm" -- this is true, and some aliens are introduced deliberately. 

Mustangs are alien to N. America, and are widely appreciated. Many 
ornamental plants are deliberately introduced. My mother was a member of 
the 
Florida Native Plants Society, and felt that they were fighting a losing 
battle against the imports. An interesting downside is that often 
introduced 
plants in dry areas require lots of water and this creates problems.

As for the comment that healthy ecosystems resist invasion, this depends 
on 
whether they have had a chance to immunise themselves by past experience. 
Because mammals were unknown in Australia, their introduction was 
impossible 
to resist. The same is often true when snakes or mosquitos arrive in 
regions 
where nothing similar has every been present. Often the best defence 
against 
an invading species is a predator that can control it, but if such 
predators 
are not already present, it may take a few million years for them to 
evolve.

Sometimes man has tried to counter one alien invasion by introducing 
another 
alien species to control it -- which brings into action the Law of 
Unintended Consequences. It's a tricky game to play.

Bill Silvert


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From: "Wayne Tyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: semi-silly question from John Nielsen


> There are some aliens that do little harm; some even provide
> benefits.  This statement is anathema, heresy, fighting words, to
> many, many very caring people.  But so many of those caring people
> have their egos inextricably wrapped up in this very laudable
> mission--it is often their reason for living, often it is a filler of
> a hole in a person's life.  One can't argue with that.
>
> Here's the heart of my "rant."  Healthy ecosystems tend to resist
> invasion.  (However, the introduction of an alien species can, in
> some cases, but not all, truly invade healthy ecosystems. 

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