In many schools, environmental science is "soft" ecology and the
environment.  I actually attended a graduate level seminar course called
"the philosophy of ecology" - only to discover I was the only student in th=
e
class who knew what the definition of ecology was - the rest thought of it
as either "environmental sciences" or "tree hugging 101".  My suggestion wa=
s
that the students need a lower level course that reinforces their knowledge
to get them to a level for a real ecology course.

Cheers,

Jim

On Nov 19, 2007 6:24 PM, Kelly Stettner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=
:

> "So, if the students do not have that background, then I think you are
> wasting your time teaching "ecology" and what you should be teaching is
> "environmental studies."  That could easily be geared to unprepared
> undergrads, and could fill in some of those voids that you mentioned your
> students have.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim"
>
>
>  Yikes!  As a self-teaching student with Vermont College myself, I am
> cringing at the thought of an "unprepared undergrad" attempting to grasp
> environmental studies WITHOUT a solid understanding of multi-disciplinary
> ecology.  I am finding that too many of my fellow students are single-min=
ded
> and wholly without any concept of basic scientific principles or methods.
>  They are feeling with their emotions instead of thinking with their brai=
ns.
>  That, in my opinion, sets the stage for disaster -- truly caring people =
out
> there attempting to "fix" nature's "problems" with "solutions" that cause
> worse problems than before.  All in the name of The Environment...and no
> science in sight.  No geology, climate history, basic chemistry or physic=
s
> or thermodynamics.
>
>  In other words, as a student, I do not consider myself a responsible
> scientists unless and until I realize that each question I answer leads t=
o
> more questions.
>
>  Respectfully,
>  Kelly Stettner, Director
>  Black River Action Team
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Black River Action Team (BRAT)
>  45 Coolidge Road
>  Springfield, VT  05156
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.blackriveractionteam.org
>
> ~Making ripples on the Black River since 2000! ~
>
>
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> how.
>



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