Of course the introducers of gallinaceous game birds were primarily
interested in providing something to shoot, but in their view the system was
deficient in species and this suggested an opportunity.  Some mistakes were
made in the process.  So we have catchable eastern warmwater fish species
(bass, sunfish, bullheads, walleye) crowding out less catchable/tasty native
species. Then we have the well-intentioned effort to improve wildlife
habitat in the semiarid Columbia Basin Plateau -- black locust and Russian
olive were the species of choice since the region didn't seem to have
suitable native upland trees -- a vacant niche.  The Russian olive can
reproduce in its own shade, its dense thickets have taken over a lot of
meadow and riparian areas and it is now considered a weedy invasive.

So I'm thinking, as Bill suggests, that we can hold either a rigid view that
all manipulation of natural systems is bad, or the equally rigid view that
anything we can do to improve systems for our benefit is good.  There is a
middle ground.

Warren W. Aney
Tigard, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William Silvert
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Invasives


The idea that vacant niches do not exist is basically founded on a strict
interpretation of Hutchinson's definition. It is the kind of rigid view that
holds back science. Invasive species are successful either because the
occupy a vacant niche or because they force closer packing of occupied
niches.

For example, if you remove all the top predators from a system then lower
trophic levels explode, and there is a vacant niche. If you remove wolves,
then deer populations grow and you may have to hire hunters to fill the
empty niche.

I'm not disputing that some introductions are based on fallacious arguments,
but invoking the literal word of Hutchinson doesn't contribute much to the
discussion.

Bill Silvert


----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Bangert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Invasives


> It seems to me that these exotic gallinaceous birds were really
> introduced to have something different to shoot. Using them to occupy
> vacant niches appears to just be a convenient excuse foisted on us.
> After-all, are there really "vacant" niches? One perspective suggests
> that the niche is defined around the species, so 'vacant' niches do
> not exist. Another specious triumph for wildlife biology.

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