This is how Hutchinson defined it, and his disciples have blocked any 
attempt to generalise the term, but many of us feel that a more general 
definition is more useful. For example, if a species becomes extinct, does 
its niche vanish with it? Since generally something will replace it, it 
makes sense to describe the displacing species as moving into a vacant 
niche.

Of course the new species may have a somewhat different niche, but I think 
of a niche as similar to an apartment -- new occupants my move the walls and 
make some changes, but basically they occupy the same space.

Unfortunately any attempt to generalise the niche concept runs into the 
philosophy that definitions should never change. I have written about the 
niche as a fuzzy set for example (which is basically what you see in any 
book on niche packing even though they don't use the word), but since 
Hutchinson didn't use the word fuzzy, the concept is verboten.

Bill Silvert


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Hilmy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: "unoccupied" niches and 'coppetitive exclusion"


> The concept of =93niche=94 is very much defined around a specific =
> species- the
> term itself is something of a misnomer in ecological terms because we =
> assume
> the traditional noun to describe a physical space or an element of =
> habitat,
> or in the argument of some posted here, a set of
> habitat/ecosystem/geographical parameters that are independent of the
> species itself as though somehow =93vacant=94, yet the term as I have =
> always
> understood it to be refers more accurately to the way in which a =
> particular
> organism fits into the ecosystem... 

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