Hmm.. it seems to me that teaching in itself is a study subject: How to tea=
ch it? Does it change depending on the audience? I think we need to perform=
 a kind of (inter)national study  on the performance of  students: what are=
 the trends and what are the processes?  Students are  a very heterogeneous=
 group  of people, changing accordig to the country and also within countri=
es.  Texbooks are  compilations of standard knowledge  assumed to be necess=
ary to the new generations to achive our knowledge for improving it afterwa=
rds. But standard texbooks are not necessarily usefule everywhere, perhaps =
we need to calibrate textbooks. Somehow, that`s what many of you do: you as=
k yourself: "what information of this (standard) textbook is useful for my =
students? How do I supply the necessary information that does not appear on=
 the textbook? How to make such a decision non-subjective? I do not know. P=
robably we need to meet in a Congress to define what is the minimum an Ecol=
ogist need to know nowadays, include it in textbooks and give each Professo=
r the time to introduce other concepts depending on each particular school =
or even region.  Just as an example, all Biology students of the world need=
 to know Nutrient Cycles, but just the ones living on places where floods a=
re common have the priority of learning how to tackle floods and the ecolog=
ical consequences of flood.

  Edgardo
(Uni-Goettingen, Germany, Centro de Investigaci=F3n Cient=EDfica de Yucat=
=E1n, M=E9xico)



> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:14:34 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: textbook-free classes
> To: [email protected]
>=20
> Bill Silvert underscores a point I was trying to make in my original post=
.
>=20
> Humans are not only a part of the ecosystem; they have become one of =20
> the dominant ecologicaland geological forces on the planet.
>=20
> My own approach to this has been to insert humanity into the picture =20
> as case studies to illustrate mainstream ecological themes.
>=20
> Examples:  Talking about Biogeochemical cycling - Introduce a section =20
> on cultural eutrophication and Lake Winnipeg.  Talking about different =20
> population growth models - lets apply that to the human population and =20
> discuss issues of carying capacity.
>=20
> Of course, my class is supposed to be a SCIENCE class, and talking =20
> about Hamanity's role in the biosphere could threaten to bring out =20
> passionate views.  But I am careful throughout to emphasize that if we =20
> want to solve environmental problems, understanding their biophysical =20
> basis is essential as a precursor to policy.
>=20
> One or two other posts to this thread separated out environmental and =20
> ecological science.  I do not think such a separation is real.  When =20
> we are talking about environmental science, we are talking about =20
> aspects of ecology.
>=20
> And there is another thing: we appear to be at a critical juncture in =20
> history. We are in the process of altering fundamental aspects of the =20
> biosphere.  Numerous environmental problems (climate change, =20
> overfishing, soil erosion, peak oil, invasives etc) are reaching =20
> critical junctures.  Yet ( and I challenge teachers to probe student =20
> awareness of these issues) a majority of students are only vaguely =20
> aware of these problems.  For this reason, I am continually thinking =20
> about ways to overhaul my teaching to keep the fundamentals but also =20
> teach about our new and unfortunate reality.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Andy Park (University of Winnipeg)
>=20
>=20
> Quoting William Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>=20
> > I agree with Jeff's view that if an instructor also writes the textbook=
, the
> > students get a pretty narrow view of the field. There has to be an
> > alternative vision.
> >
> > I know one university where the entire department is collaborating on a
> > textbook, and that is a possible solution -- diversity of viewpoints,
> > consistent with department policy, and affordable.
> >
> > One point that has not come up is the scope of what we call ecology. I
> > attend a lot of international workshops and at the level where ecologis=
ts
> > are involved in policy issues it is clear that humans are port of the
> > ecosystem. To what extent is this taught? I think that if we compare th=
is
> > discussion of textbooks with the parallel discussion of invasives we se=
e
> > that trying to discuss any ecological issue without taking into account
> > human values as well as human intervention can be pretty futile.
> >
> > Bill Silvert
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Jewett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:11 PM
> > Subject: textbook-free classes
> >
> >
> >>  I have
> >> always had a problem, however, with instructors whose only "reading
> >> material" is something that they wrote themselves (whether it was a
> >> coursepack or something more formal). Every student learns differently=
,
> >> and not all students will relate well to any particular instructor's
> >> teaching style.
> >

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