Hi Bill:

Without having more information about the design (specific hypothesis) and 
given the temporal replication, you might wish to consider using occupancy 
models (http://www.uvm.edu/envnr/vtcfwru/spreadsheets/occupancy/occupancy.htm) 
rather than repeated measures.  These types of models can also be applied for 
interactions between species (see Chapter 8; Occupancy Estimation and Modeling. 
 MacKenzie et. al.  2006.  Academic Press).  

Brian Campbell



> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:43:00 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Statistical advice
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Good afternoon all:
> 
> I am looking for some statistical advice, in a situation that has me 
> temporarily stumped.
> 
> We have data which includes a categorical predictor variable (a landscape 
> attribute, habitat patch size), two continuous dependent variables (measures 
> of plant and rodent abundance), and many years of observations.  Experimental 
> hypotheses involve the question of how patch size affects organism abundance, 
> and also about correlations between plant and rodent abundance.
> 
> This seems to be set up exactly for the repeated measures ANOVA function in 
> SPSS within the GLM section, only no information is given in the printout 
> about associations between the dependent variables.  What would you recommend 
> we do to formally investigate the relations between plant and rodent 
> abundance (the dependent variables), in the light of time and patch size?  So 
> far we can run a RMANOVA to investigate time and patch size, and then to run 
> separate analyses (e.g. correlations within each year) to look at the 
> association between plant and rodent abundance, but there may be a more 
> holistic way to do this.
> 
> Thanks for any advice you can give.
> 
> Bill Cook
> 
> William M. Cook
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Biological Sciences
> St. Cloud State University
> 720 4th Avenue South
> St. Cloud, MN 56301 USA
> Phone: (320) 308-2019
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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