Ecolog:

Let us do consider the "programming goals of other(?) . . . professions." 

Traditional engineering has long ignored ecosystems in the conversion of 
natural runoff (e.g. stream) courses, thus designing "drainage channels" that 
constrict rivers, streams and tributaries to make development unsuited to 
"flood plains" and relatively low "lowlands" possible, subjecting the lands 
thus developed to flooding, increasing the velocity and depth of the runoff in 
the channels, making them more, not less hazardous for people, other animals, 
and property that happen to find themselves/it in them at the wrong time. 
Matthew is quite right that urban residents do not (or should not) "feel 
comfortable" trekking through them. "Like it or not" is a reasonable rendition 
of many engineers' attitude toward anyone, ecologist or anyone else, that 
objects to converting streams into the open "storm sewers" they create "for 
practical purposes. These structures commonly drown people and suck away 
property that have no bushes or trees to cling to or get hung up on, especially 
when paved, but even those open to percolation have such low residence times 
that groundwater recharge is minimal. That such engineering imposes a 
"maintenance burden" of vegetation-clearing in perpetuity upon the communities 
they "serve" as well as increased hazard (volume, velocity, erosion, breadth, 
pollution, etc.) to innocents downstream is just part of a testimony to the 
inadequacy of such linear-minded design. 

Bossler's tone is not only bossy but fallacious when he insinuates that "Fire 
risk, flood control and conveyance, and public safety [are] commonly poo-pooed 
by ecologists . . . ." The truth is, ecologists are seldom if ever are 
consulted by so-called flood-control engineers (if developers and others built 
on land above flood plains in a competent manner, there would be no flood to 
control); when they are, it is most commonly to put a pseudo-environmental 
cosmetic face on channeling projects to sell them to a sufficiently gullible 
percent of the public and to appease well-meaning "environmentalists" who are 
unaware they are being swamped with green ink in lieu of the loss of rare 
habitat. "We" (does Bossler "we" Ecolog subscribers or "we" ecologists or does 
it refer to a whole crowd of straw-men and -women?) are always eager to 
communicate with other professions, sometimes so eager that we end up accepting 
a relatively meaningless ribbon or quasi-riparian "corridor" because that's all 
we think we can get from the political bullies with the money behind them. As 
is apparent by any honest analysis resembling the preceding sketch of factors, 
the effects of expedient engineering are far from limited to "the environment" 
or "ecologists," they concern everyone in and downstream from any 
linear-designed structure/community to an extent unimagined by almost everyone. 
The definition of professional responsibility is to represent that unimagined 
fraction of knowledge honestly and completely. There is another definition of 
"professional" that should be drummed out of town, as it were, but they almost 
always insinuate themselves with the power, and let the principle go hang for a 
few bucks. 

Bossler's vague generalizations about "the design of such an area" would be 
best served by a specific case, or even a hypothetical one with real numbers on 
it. 

I agree with Bossler that some ecologists, like some engineers, demonize 
others, and that is always a bad thing. But both professions need to clean up 
their act and their rhetoric and face the total reality behind their 
presumptions. Honesty is not demonization, despite the wailing of crocodile 
tears by those caught with their hands in the cookie-jar. Neither should accept 
any demagoguery lying down, and all concerned should learn straight talk and 
give up manipulation (perhaps when pigs fly?). But it does happen, and there 
are good engineers and good ecologists out there that are trying to find a 
point of reconciliation. That, not dominance of one over the other, could be 
the operative modality for us all. It's each person's choice. 

Let's try to find some real cases where it HAS worked. 

WT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Bossler" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:17 AM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] FW: [ECOLOG-L] Urban Stream "Restoration"


Urban streamcourses in the southwestern U.S. have mostly been designed for 
flood control and conveyance, and most often not of sufficient width or 
structure to provide much benefit to wildlife or human recreation in the form 
of walking trails, bid-watching, etc.  Like it or not, urban residents, likely 
due to their infrequent encounters with "wild" or "scrubby" vegetated 
landscapes, do not feel comfortable trekking through or next to them (something 
that most ecologists writing on ECOLOG love!)  

A second point to be made here is that highly altered linear ecosystems, such 
as flow-controlled watercourses though urban areas, are often maintenance 
nightmares due to the nichespace that has been created for better-adapted 
exotic species.  Fire risk, flood control and conveyance, and public safety, 
while commonly poo-pooed by ecologists, are real objectives for professions 
whom we often do not understand or communicate with. 

It seems to me that, in order to increase urban people's understanding
of the habitat and ecosystem value (or, for that matter, recreational
value,) there seems to be a need for intermediate experiences with
semi-managed natural areas.  The design of such an area can take the
form of a moderately-graded, smooth-surfaced pathway bordered by built
elements of comfort (edging, seating, etc.) with maintained views
towards more ecologically-functioning areas. The design and maintenance of such 
areas, of course, is more expensive than the moneys supporting small-scale LTER 
projects or knee-jerk maintenance actions.

I would encourage restoration ecologists within this forum and elsewhere to 
consider the programming goals of urban watercourses as identified by other 
professions before demonizing the decisions made by maintenance staff.  Perhaps 
the fault lies in our own profession's lack of communication and team-building 
skills?

Matthew Bossler

University of Arizona, Masters Student
C: (804) 763-9035
1721 E. Lester St.
Tucson, AZ 85719




> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:27:16 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Urban Stream "Restoration"
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Unfortunately, this happens everywhere.  I agree one of the biggest problems 
> is probably our society's perception of what looks "scrubby."  I drive by 
> streams constantly that have been "cleaned out" or "improved."  There is 
> usually green, lush grass right up to the edge of the stream bank, which is 
> eroded and slumping into the water.  
> 
> Some states provide legal protection for riparian corridors.  So, you may 
> look into what permits are required in your state for such activities.  Other 
> than that, we can only re-shape our ideas about what "looks nice".
> 
> 
> T. Travis Brown
> 193 Forest Drive
> Jeffersonville, IN 47130
> [email protected]
> (502) 322-4034
> 
> >Hello all,
> >I have observed a disturbing trend in my home in Santa Cruz,
> >California that I see echoed in this recent article from Berkeley,
> >CA
> >
> http://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2009-02-19/article/32287?headline=Green-Neighbors-The-Richmond-Chainsaw-Massacre-Part-One
> 
> >
> >In these cases, urban riparian corridors are denuded in the name of
> >public safety, despite the existence of a restoration plan of some
> >sort. In the Santa Cruz case, the work is done by furloughed
> >prisoners engaged by the city government, no qualified biologists
> >are employed, and a vegetation removal permit entitled "riparian
> >restoration" is issued , despite the heavy removal of willows, box
> >elders and other natives.
> >Is this new trend peculiar to the Central Coast of California, or
> >are others seeing similar problems with urban stream "restorations"?
> >
> >Please share any stories you may have with me...
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Rachel O'Malley
> 
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