Honorable Forum:

At the suggestion of one subscriber, I am taking the initiative in posting this on Ecolog initially to get the Open Discussion (OD) started. When it appears to fizzle, those interested can continue off-list if they wish, by emailing Meiss or myself.

Martin Meiss' most fundamental (no pun intended) point seemed to be:

". . . we should be looking for something better than "Does this have the stamp of approval of people who think like I do?" We should be looking for something that is not just an encodement of "Does this violate the doctrine of my faith?" --Martin M. Meiss, Ecolog post, 7-9-2009

While Meiss was referring to publishing, his comment is fundamental; it harkens to principle, a crucial divide that cleaves through human consciousness and behavior from the beginnings of culture to the present. And how we interpret this dichotomy may well be pivotal for our future and that of much of life on earth. But it is as fully understandable as it is tragic. Even our courts (or more accurately, especially our courts) court and countenance countless miscarriages of justice, not to mention every shred of human affairs and the systems they affect and effect. Authoritarianism is recognizable as the ultimate evil in fascism and Nazism, but embraced as the Holy Grail when sanctified by authority in the name of science.

There is some ratio of high-level fakery to honest intellectual enquiry today as in, say, the time of Copernicus, but we don't know just what it is or was or whether it was greater then than now. Of course, wanting to save face for ourselves and ridicule the dead (save our heroes), we presume that we are more advanced today. But I wonder how the trajectory of integrity throughout history might be graphed? Is it a straight-line function of continuous betterment through time, or has it had its ups and downs? Have disciplines become more or less disciplined, more or less honest? What is the credibility quotient of science? Of the discipline of ecology?

At one time, I suspect that ecologists were more monk-like, eschewing the grand life for the simple life, dedicated to the pursuit of understanding what the hell is actually going on out there. Maybe it was in Clements' time, for better or for worse, or maybe it is now, as ecologists struggle mightily in cyberspace impoverished and unappreciated. Maybe they are still monk-like. But maybe there are charlatans and knaves today as yesterday, foisting off cyber-alchemy upon the kings in exchange for a larger and larger largesse in the form of grants, secure in tenure, surrounded by indentured and obedient students, struggling to breathe free. I am not suggesting that all is going to hell in a handbasket, but I am suggesting that there just may be more Emperors sans raiments that we might prefer to imagine.

I do not deign to revise Meiss' remarks, only to extend them--and to invite others to offer up answers to Meiss' "something better" than the fraction of science that remains or perhaps accelerates more deeply into the tyranny of Authoritarian Hierarchy. To put it another way, is "a scientific certainty" compatible with science as a feedback loop question? Is the sky falling or is all well or where in-between do we fall or stand? Is much of science, after all, yet another religion?

WT

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