I tend to agree with Wayne -- this survey not only had questions that I as a
field ecologist couldn't readily answer, I felt that I had some possible
answers for which they did not have questions.  It was almost as if the
survey had been written to validate some deskbound pre-answers and had not
been vetted by those with actual field experience in restoration and
management. 

Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, OR  97223

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ecolo...@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:42 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Ecosystem Restoration and Climate Change Re: [ECOLOG-L]
Restoration ecology and climate change survey

Ecolog:

I did my best to fill out this survey, but I must confess there were just 
some questions I didn't have an answer for (and, no doubt because my 
arrogance was in overload, I thought I had answers for which there were no 
questions, but hey, I'm glad they kept it simple). I have no doubt that "the

climate" is changing; it always has, and the rate and degree of change has 
always changed too. I don't doubt that cultural activities have had, and are

having some influence on those changes, but I don't know how much and in 
which direction. By simple deduction, there must be people who know a lot 
more than I do about atmospheric carbon loads, residence times, carbon 
exchange, the influence of living things like rain forests and bacteria, the

tilt of the earth, ad infinitum. But I harbor a dark suspicion that there 
also are people who are convinced that they know, who don't know as much as 
it appears.

As for restoration, my limited experience has led me to think that it is a 
mere finger in the dike, and much of that is illusory, at least as far as 
the role of "restorationists" is concerned. Ecosystem resilience is a much 
more important factor than whether or not a restoration ecologist thinks he 
or she knows where to move organisms and that kind of stuff. I don't mean 
that restoration shouldn't be done or that it is a futile spit in the ocean,

but I suggest that it needs a more questioning than answering perspective. 
When there's a gash in the face of the earth some actions can be taken to 
accelerate "healing," and that is worth doing, especially if ecosystem 
degradation can be slowed even a little bit, and if some germplasm that 
otherwise would have gone down the sewer is able to persist a little longer,

maybe even long enough for the forces of degradation to be relaxed long 
enough to prevent functional extinction.

Had some zoo had the foresight to harbor some passenger pigeons, for 
example, perhaps there could have been releases and enough reproduction to 
fill whatever niches might have been left, preserved, even restored. While 
it might be unlikely that the sky would ever be darkened by them again, at 
least until Homo sapiens cultureboundensis fulfilled hisher potential for 
perfection or went extinct or bombed himherself back into the Stone Age, a 
functional, truly sustainable population might have been established. No one

is sure, for example, of the California condor will ever reach a 
self-sustaining population, but if we can hang onto it long enough, we can 
at least blunt the effects of too many .22 long rifle cartridges, 
lead-filled offal, puddles of antifreeze, and coyote-getters, ad nauseam, 
and when we come to recognize the true effects of displacing elk, deer, 
pronghorns and the like with beeves, maybe there will be enough of them for 
a sustainable population.

I don't know whether or not trying to move organisms to prevent their demise

from the coming Great Warming or the Great Cooling, is a good idea or a bad 
one, or if it answers to the Precautionary Principle on some scale of 
priorities. Certainly there is what might be called the Ark impulse afoot, 
and that less-traveled road might make all the difference. It also might 
suck funding away from other priorities, but how can we know until data 
sharing and integration comes of age and open sources rule? I guess we 
can't, so perhaps the present chaotic "system" is good enough, maybe even 
superior.

What say you?

WT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Kaye" <t...@appliedeco.org>
To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:22 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Restoration ecology and climate change survey


> The Institute for Applied Ecology is conducting a survey of international
> professionals, academics, students, etc. about their perspectives on
> restoration, climate change, and working with and moving organisms. 
> Climate
> change may be the defining challenge to the field of restoration ecology
> this century. How does the wider restoration community currently approach
> the challenges of habitat and species restoration, and how is this 
> approach
> likely to shift if the climate changes locally and globally? Understanding
> how people conduct or support restoration is crucial to engaging in
> discussions that move our field forward in the face of changing
> environments.  We think you will find many of the questions interesting 
> and
> thought provoking.
>
> Please consider taking this survey if you have any connection to the 
> process
> of habitat restoration (from policy to research to implementation) or want
> to make your views known.  The survey is available at the following link:
>
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/JSWHY7C<http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TPGCGG5>
<http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=7k5uVLkvD_2bHMUVBCw3ZGvg_3d_3d>
> We are excited to conduct this survey and hope that you will participate 
> (it
> takes about 15 minutes).  We will conclude the survey on 31 January 2010 
> and
> the results will be published.  Thanks in advance for your time.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tom Kaye
> Institute for Applied Ecology
> PO Box 2855, Corvallis, Oregon 97339-2855
> 563 SW Jefferson Ave, Corvallis, Oregon
> 541-753-3099 ext. 111
> www.appliedeco.org
>
> Dept. of Botany and Plant Pathology
> Oregon State University
> 2087 Cordley Hall, Corvallis, Oregon 97331


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