Malcolm:

I quite agree with you on the fundamentals, except (and I do not presume that 
you disagree; I mention this by way of adding clarity to my own statement) that 
I am in favor of "an all-out assault," not on any particular media, but upon 
Dumbdown TV in all its forms, much in the spirit of Thomas Jefferson--"I have 
sworn eternal vigilance against every form of tyranny over the mind of man," or 
something to that effect. 

Social control is like controlling a taildragger aircraft, especially on 
takeoff and landing--one must "stay on top of" BOTH left and right rudders, 
lest one groundloop. That is, one takes SUFFICIENT corrective action as soon as 
the nose BEGINS to wander off the center-line, and not a moment later. Once the 
nose begins to veer off, and the more it veers off, the MORE AGGRESSIVE action 
is needed to "correct" the imminent premature termination of the takeoff or 
landing. 

I presume every "field" ecologist understands this perfectly well. If not, 
perhaps I have overcorrected. I do not buy the "anything goes" if it's "just 
entertainment" idea; science fiction does not have to violate the truth, even 
when it is not factual, especially when it is predictive, nay, prescient. But 
it is careful to label itself properly. 

If I could think of any way other than slamming on opposite rudder (and brake 
as necessary) to apply sufficient correction to the deviation of the media from 
the truth that is science and intellectual integrity, I would, of course, apply 
that amount of opposite rudder (whilst being ready to apply correction in the 
opposite direction in case I overcorrected). 

That is what this Forum does admirably well--it fans the rudder. 

WT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: malcolm McCallum 
  To: Wayne Tyson 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Fwd: CALL TO ACTION - Discovery Channel teaches 
viewers how to kill bats.


  There are plenty of reasonably decent programs from an educational and 
entertainment perspective on the Discovery network.  I am not suggesting an 
all-out assault, and certainly the blogger whom you speak of does an admirable 
job in her writing.  I don't think the problem of sensationalism is yet an 
endemic problem, but it is a developing symptom of what could be on the 
horizon.  It is important for News broadcasts and News programs are not the 
same thing, one is reporting, the other is entertainment (for the most part).  
Likewise, educational programs have the same extremes with many programs that 
fall somewhere in between.  For example, I am currently watching a program 
called River Monsters.  It is very entertaining, and it does provide a bit of 
educational quality.  However, it also has a bit of sensationalism to provide 
drama.  Thus far, it appears that he uses myths about these fish to develop the 
drama and then for the most part debunks the idea that said fish is eating 
people.  Regardless, its probably the best fishing program that has ever been 
produced!  On the other hand, a few programs border on the absurd and belong on 
SciFi (ScyFy).  I live in East Texas and can say if Big Foot is running around 
here, he is invisible!  sea serpents in the Mississippi, etc. etc., this should 
be reserved for other stations.  There are plenty of super interesting REAL 
things to cover (DIRTY JOBS for example), there is really no need for the 
fiction, pseudoscience, etc.  


  :)







  On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Wayne Tyson <[email protected]> wrote:

    Ecolog:

    Thanks Malcolm!

    Grrrrr! My wife was one of their early victims, cutting footage of her into 
what she was led to believe was a scientifically responsible piece; worse, they 
keep airing it even though it's several years old now. And I actually shot some 
professional video footage for them, for which I got zero for payment--in 
retrospect, I should have been fined for stupidity. As to one particular 
zeal-idiot, he actually started out reasonably well, then went down the toilet, 
but he keeps popping up with more and more mental-fecal-matter.

    I hope there will be zero teachers using any "Discovery" material from now 
on--as if most haven't already banned it from classrooms other than to use it 
as an example of junk science. This is not to say that everything produced is 
necessarily junk science, but if the front office doesn't really feel it, 
nothing will change--I don't know how they could make it much worse, but they 
ain't on top of the heap for nuthin'. My weapon of choice in the past has been 
Op-Eds (effective enough to get my contract with a major NGO cancelled), and I 
would strongly urge Fascione to do that and keep on hammering them every way 
she can. She needs to form a conservation coalition, and hammer this whole 
flim-flammery cannery down below oblivion where it belongs.

    There are some writers right here on Ecolog who could do that as well, one 
of which I think has a blog on Discovery-something, but we should ask all 
science writers on Ecolog to weigh in on this one. Yes, it's HIGH TIME educated 
and honest people started raising some hell about the pseudo-science that 
infests so-called "educational" TV on several channels. I call it "Dumb-Down 
TV."

    Maybe we should start a monitoring and evaluation program that rates TV and 
other media products and perhaps developing an advisory service to work with 
those willing--a "Good-Naturekeeping Seal" of approval? All very good-natured, 
of course! And, of course, the advisors will be peer-reviewed post-production 
and laughed out of town by their peers if they sell out. Then scientists, 
teachers, and millions of other "right-thinking" citizens of the world could be 
a cheering section for such programs, thus giving them the eyeballs they want. 
Some bozos seem to think that they can raise ratings by feeding their fellow 
bozos more bozonium, but if the Head Office gets the drift that they are LOSING 
ratings, maybe they'll "get religion."

    In any case, don't help these bozovillians assume the cloak of scientific 
respectability around their naked disrespect for the truth any longer. Sheesh! 
And I thought Steve was going to far!

    WT

    PS: I have come to distrust just about all such "programming," even some of 
that coming from once-reliable outfits, because I have increasingly found so 
much drivel cloaked in science. As in my wife's experience, I suspect that most 
of the scientists who appear on these abominable abominations are unaware of 
how the footage of them will be used. They should take great care to examine 
any paperwork carefully, and to insert language that opens the producers, their 
heirs, successors in interest, and assigns--and every other deep and shallow 
pocket that participates in such chicanery to being sued, black and blued, and 
tattooed with the mark of bozo and banished to Sillygan's Island (somewhere in 
the vicinity of Atlantis) with a half hour of their own hot air to breathe. And 
get someone who can put it into the strongest possible terms. And oh, yes--I 
almost forgot. Write SPONSORS! And organizations (Union of Concerned 
Scientists?), asking them to put their oar into the water.


    ----- Original Message ----- From: "malcolm McCallum" 
<[email protected]>
    To: <[email protected]>
    Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:12 PM
    Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Fwd: CALL TO ACTION - Discovery Channel teaches viewers 
how to kill bats.



      THis is not the first time that Bear Grylls has been the subject of such
      things (biting in half live snakes for example!).  However, below is a 
post
      from Bat Conseration international that many of you may want to address.
      IT is time for these shows to demonstrate environmental responsibility and
      cease their sensationalism posed as education.  Discovery and other 
likewise
      mannered "educational" television is damaging its credibility day by day,
      but the recent episode outlined below is the epitome of ignorance.

      Malcolm


      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Bat Conservation International <[email protected]>
      Date: Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:16 PM
      Subject: CALL TO ACTION - Discovery Channel teaches viewers how to kill
      bats.
      To: "malcolm.mccallum.tamut" <[email protected]>



      <https://www.batcon.org/>

      A recent episode of Discovery Channel's Man vs. Wild featured Bear Grylls
      gleefully killing bats with a homemade club. The clip, which shows Grylls
      throwing a flame in a cave to "smoke out" the bats, swatting them to the
      ground and then stomping on them, has aired internationally and been 
posted
      on YouTube, allowing for continued access.

      Though we understand the show is about survival, we feel that this clip
      perpetuates negative attitudes toward bats and could generate senseless
      copycat activity and/or the type of vandalism that is driving many bat
      species to the brink of extinction. Only four months ago, a Kentucky man 
was
      sentenced to eight months in jail after pleading guilty to beating to 
death
      105 endangered Indiana bats.

      Please express your disappointment at this anti-conservation message by

      filling out the feedback <http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations> 
form

      on Discovery Communications website. Let the Discovery executives know:

       - This episode undermines decades of bat conservation efforts
       - Bats are an important part of a healthy ecosystem. They eat
       agricultural pests, disperse seeds to replenish the rainforest and 
pollinate
       a variety of plants. Many bats are endangered and the loss of a single
       species can have ramifications throughout the ecosystem.
       - Viewers should be informed that killing bats-or even disturbing
       them-may be illegal depending on the species and country.
       - We would like Discovery Channel to ensure this edition of Born Survivor
       and related footage is not aired again and that this

      footage<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guSY9bTdwI4>is removed from

      Youtube, the Discovery Channel website and all other
       communications
       - We hope Discovery Channel uses all its nature programming to forward
       conservation efforts.

      Best regards,

      Nina Fascione
      Executive Director
      Bat Conservation International

      P.S. Help spread the word. Forward this to a friend.


      If you do not wish to receive emails from BCI click

      
here<[email protected]?subject=please+remove+me+from+your+mailing+list>



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      Herpetological Conservation and Biology

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      1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
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      2022: Soylent Green is People!

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  Herpetological Conservation and Biology

  1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea"  W.S. Gilbert
  1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
             and pollution.
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  2022: Soylent Green is People!

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