Ecolog:
As McCallum so sagely points out, it is the responsibility of peers to
perform this duty, not as in "payment" for an "indebtedness," but to keep
the gift of knowledge circulating.
WT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Matlock" <[email protected]>
To: "Wayne Tyson" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 6:04 AM
Subject: RE: [ECOLOG-L] fixing peer review - elegant new proposal and
petition - ideas
If people are forced to review just to acquire review credits when they have
no real interest in conducting the review, they will conduct superficial,
inadequate reviews. The peer review system requires individuals to donate
their labor for free to journals. They receive no remuneration and it serves
no purpose for tenure or advancement. Provide proper incentives (either
remuneration or make reviews influence personal advancement) and the problem
will go away.
____________________________
Robert Matlock
Assistant Professor
Department of Biology, 6S-143
College of Staten Island
City University of New York
2800 Victory Blvd. 10314
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From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] fixing peer review - elegant new proposal and
petition - ideas
Ecolog:
How is it that something as basic and sensible as this is 180 degrees out of
phase with custom, especially in an intellectual endeavor that emphasizes
the absence of bias?
WT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron T. Dossey" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] fixing peer review - elegant new proposal and
petition - ideas
These are some good ideas - we DEFINITELY need more INDEPENDENT research
jobs in science - this is a HUGE problem. I would start there before
deciding to reduce the number of PhD's earned. The problems science
solves will not go away, in general, so we will always need more
independent thinkers employed to solve them.
A couple of ideas for peer review:
1) make the reviewers names available: ie: not anonymous.
2) make the author(s) names anonymous. Too many papers get published
and grants get funded because of WHO is on the author/PI line rather
than the content of those documents.
Aaron T. Dossey, Ph.D.
Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
(Candan Soykan) wrote:
I believe that the problem is much broader than individuals "cheating"
the
peer review system. Rather, why has the number of manuscripts increased
so
dramatically? Many bemoan the increasing quantity and decreasing quality
of
papers these days, and yet few are willing to discuss the root cause -
competition for jobs/grants. So long as there are too many individuals
vying for too few jobs/research dollars, the incentive will be to publish
often, even if the quality of the work is low (i.e., satisfy the search
committees and reviewers who value quantity over quality).
There are several ways to address this issue (and I doubt that my list is
exhaustive):
1) Increase the number of jobs/grants for ecologists;
2) Decrease the number of ecologist we train so as not to exceed the
number
of jobs/grants that are available;
or
3) Change the way we evaluate candidates to better reflect the quality of
the work they have done, rather then just reward output per se.
In my opinion, option #1 is largely out of the hands of researchers;
moreover, if the amount of funding did increase, there is always the risk
that the number of ecologist we train would as well, leading to no net
gain.
I have seen certain individuals refrain from taking students, fulfilling
the second option above, but getting a whole community of ecologists to
do
it seems problematic (who would decide how many students each researcher
can
train?). The third option seems the most realistic, but will require a
shift in the way we evaluate research productivity. Moreover, it brings
with it risks as well - counting pubs is, at the very least, objective,
whereas who is to evaluate the quality of the work done by an applicant?
I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts on this issue ...
Candan Soykan
[email protected]
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