All:

Just try to challenge the "Dr's and Prof's" who narrate TV shows, no matter how politely, and you will be shunned and ignored. This is true of any "priesthood." Does this advance science? We are not supposed to use our critical faculties--especially if the narrator is famous. This is most often the case even if one bends over backward to be properly respectful and does it in a way that helps the person save face--unfortunately, so many use "witch-hunt" tactics, perversely thinking they will be elevated if they put someone else down, so people are naturally quite gun-shy of people who shoot from the hip, and every critic looks like a gunslinger at a distance.

My wife (a professor and museum curator) once welcomed a "documentary" crew to film some exhibit material and her speaking on-camera. To her chagrin she ended up "in" a sensational TV show where her remarks were placed out of context, leaving a questionable (to put it politely) impression with respect to her knowledge and conveying "information" in the guise of "science." She regrets being so cooperative. She is embarrassed all over again every time the "show" is repeated.

Of course, mistakes can happen. From my own experience, reporters can get it wrong--not because they intentionally do so, but because they were CERTAIN that they understood (and I must say that I have erred in presuming that they understood, too). This unfortunate phenomenon could be averted much of the time if the reporters/editors/producers would clear the piece with the originator of the information/testimony. But the news cycle is so short that this is not done. But the damage also is done--and whom does it come back to haunt?

Yes, yes, YES! If only all students and citizens were actually taught skepticism in the schools. If skeptics were only the only part of the problem, there would be no/a lesser problem . . .

If the Internet would grow up and achieve its potential, if all claims as to fact were linked to the chain of evidence, then ordinary folk would at least have the ability to check the facts. These folk (or anyone else) should not have to check the evidence if the scientific reporting has been done with adequate journalistic skill. Of course, if the attribution is correct, the responsibility falls upon the source; still, the reporter should not twist the source's testimony out of context--KISS!

Caveat emptor is, it seems to me, the point of this discussion. It exists. It shouldn't. But since it does, pressure for better reporting will help change direction for the better. Sure, there are cherries in the tree, but those which look so good from below have sometimes been pecked by crows. A good reporter, like a good scientist, will be delighted to discover error and correct it--hopefully before the piece hits the streets.

WT


----- Original Message ----- From: "malcolm McCallum" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Disseminating scientific thought to the general public: are scientists making science readily accessible?


Having done a "little" unpublished research on this, people are
increasingly getting their news from the internet.  Albeit some of
those sources may be the primary news channels and news programs, but
they are not reading the newspaper or watching news programs as much.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Esat Atikkan <[email protected]> wrote:
This discussion is extremely interesting and timely. I am not sure of the
statistics but it is widely held that the public receives much of its
information (news, science, medicine, etc.) via the media, namely TV. Thus it becomes incumbent upon it to provide accurate information. I am certain that a significant number of us have observed occasions, on TV, where that criterion was not met. Even bona fide scientists can become 'distorted' - examples would be Dr. Oz and a plethora of other media physicians, 'Dr's and ‘Prof’s X, Y, Z
narrating cosmology shows, the list goes on.

Yet I am thankful for each and every one of those exaggerations, because the next day I can take it to the forum of my students – a teaching point has risen, a discussion of the science ensues, the final lesson being ‘not all that is on TV, or print, and most notably, on the internet, should be taken at face value.’

Yes it is sad that hyperbole appears to have become an integral part of the material that media feeds the public. The direst of outcomes of the range of
outcomes predicted by models make the news, prognostications of traumatic,
fatalistic ends appear to receive the greatest ‘press’, yet the variables that
the models incorporate are rarely discussed.

Is good science absent from TV? I think no easy answer exists – interesting science abounds, possible technological breakthroughs are disseminated, the caveat being they are usually presented as ‘ready to roll’, though they may
still be prototypes.


Are there learning opportunities on TV? – My response is a resounding Yes! Each
item that is presented as ‘scientific fact’, ‘scientific discovery’,
‘technological breakthrough’ and the like, that is of interest to me (or
potentially to my students) opens up research to chase down the facts.

Not sure if it truly applies to material that we acquire via the media, but
caveat emptor does come to mind.

Esat Atikkan







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