Honorable Forum:

While I tend to find something with which to agree in most posts, I suggest that the "scientific" approach to such discussions tend more toward the specific and less toward the general. For example when asserting a conclusion about something (e.g., the Davis, et al paper or an assertion therein), it would help in interpreting the refutation if the refuter included an exact quote from the offending paper/assertion and a full statement that explains just what the defects are upon which the refutation is based.

WT

Note to David: Regarding the quote you included, "some famous person" needlessly invokes authority when the statement can stand on its own merit or fall on its own deficiencies with or without invoking authority. While this is a growing habit among academics, I question its value. I could be wrong, of course, so what would be the scientific (disciplined, scholarly, non-manipulative) way of demonstrating my error? Rather than using the "famous person" phrase, I would simply note that it was not of my own making, putting it in quotes, and stating that I had forgotten (or lacked the time or gumption to look it up) who said or wrote it. Of course you are quoting someone else, and you even provide a link, for which thanks. Perhaps the sole responsibility of the error lies with the person whom you are quoting some other "source," but if the originator was indeed famous, the passing of the lazy buck has got to stop someplace--red meat for the scholar or other stickler. Otherwise, the error will be perpetuated in the "literature." Richard Minnich wrote a delightful paper on this years ago, demonstrating how perpetuation such errors can send colleagues on some expensive and time-consuming wild goose chases (New Yorkers will please disregard) and expose a whole chain of sloppy scholarship. I look forward to your posts in which you fearlessly take on the answers to your questions and probe deeply into the merits and deficiencies of the issues, statements, assertions, and refutations coming out of this discussion.


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Thanks for the post David.

As a newcomer to science (working on my Ph.D.), there were some lingering questions I had while reading Davis et al. and the responses: Is this how we want to move forward as a science? What does it mean when we resort to gathering signatures? Is this how our science should work? What does it contribute? How should we deal with issues that are debated in a more productive and less polarizing manner? Personally, I don't think that petitioning changes ecology nor any other natural phenomena.

I would like to add Peter Kareiva's blog on the matter to be added to this discussion: http://blog.nature.org/2011/06/invasive-species-fight-mark-davis-peter-kareiva/

Opening of the piece: "A famous person once observed that the signature of a civilized mind is the ability to hold two seemingly contradictory ideas in one’s head at the same time. This is exactly what conservation must learn to do when it comes to introduced (or what we often call “non-native” or “invasive”) species."

Cheers,

Chris

On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:18 PM, David Duffy wrote:

Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:52:27 +0000



Forwarded from rom: Shyama Pagad
<[email protected]> on Aliens-L list server

Correspondence Nature Vol 475 July 7 2011

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Non-natives: 141 scientists object

We the undersigned feel that in advocating a
change in the environmental management of
introduced species (Nature 474, 153–154; 2011),
Mark Davis and colleagues assail two straw men.
First, most conservation biologists and
ecologists do not oppose non-native species per
se — only those targeted by the Convention on
Biological Diversity as threatening “ecosystems,
habitats or species”. There is no campaign
against all introductions: scarcity of resources
forces managers to prioritize according to the
impact of troublesome species, as in the Australian Weed Risk Assessment.

Second, invasion biologists and managers do not
ignore the benefits of introduced species. They
recognize that many non-native species curtail
erosion and provide food, timber and other
services. Nobody tries to eradicate wheat, for
instance. Useful non-native species may
sometimes still need to be managed because they
have a negative impact, such as tree invasions
that cause water loss in the South African fynbos.

Davis and colleagues downplay the severe impact
of non-native species that may not manifest for
decades after their introduction — as occurred
with the Brazilian pepper shrub (Schinus
terebinthifolius) in Florida (J. J. Ewel in
Ecology of Biological Invasions of North America
and Hawaii (eds H. A. Mooney and J. A. Drake)
214–230; Springer, 1986). Also, some species may
have only a subtle immediate impact but affect
entire ecosystems, for example through their effect on soils.

Pronouncing a newly introduced species as
harmless can lead to bad decisions about its
management. A species added to a plant community
that has no evolutionary experience of that
organism should be carefully watched.

For some introductions, eradication is possible.
For example, 27 invasive species have been
eradicated from the Galapagos Islands,
mitigating severe adverse effects on endemic
species. Harmful invasive species have been
successfully kept in check by biological, chemical and mechanical means.

The public must be vigilant of introductions and
continue to support the many successful management efforts.

Daniel Simberloff* University of Tennessee, Tennessee, USA.
[email protected]

*On behalf of 141 signatories
[<http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7354/extref/475036a-s1.pdf>http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7354/extref/475036a-s1.pdf]
(see go.nature.com/f1eqjn).

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Non-natives: put biodiversity at risk

Bias against non-native species is not
xenophobic (Nature 474, 153–154; 2011) — it has
a sound scientific foundation. The non-native
status of a species is highly relevant to
assessing its potential environmental and
economic impact. Unrestrained growth and
environmental damage follow when there are no
natural enemies in newly colonized areas. This
is not necessarily a sign of an invader’s
superior evolutionary fitness: it may lead to a
population collapse due to overexploitation of resources.

Non-native species can increase the variety of
species in a community, but it is an
oversimplification to equate this with increased
biodiversity, of which species richness is only
one component. Surviving populations of native
species may shrink or become restricted to
poor-quality marginal habitats. Such unevenness
hardly contributes to a more diverse community.

The genetic diversity of invaded communities may
decrease because of bottlenecks: native
genotypes disappear as populations fall, whereas
the invaders originate from very few initial colonizers.
Establishment of non-native species inevitably
decreases global diversity. Australia, for
example, was unique in having no placental
mammals; their introduction by humans made the
continent ecologically more similar to the rest of the world.

Andrei Alyokhin University of Maine, Maine, USA.
[email protected]

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Non-natives: plusses of invasion ecology

Contrary to the implications of Mark Davis and
colleagues (Nature 474, 153–154; 2011), invasion
ecology has given us valuable insight into the
effects of new species on ecological function
and into some of the precipitous changes we may face in the coming decades.

Invasion ecologists generally assert that only a
very small fraction of non-native species harm
their new ecosystems. This position emerged as
early as 1986 and was mainstream in the era that
Davis and colleagues claim as the nadir of ecological nativism.

It is unfair to characterize any scientific
discipline solely by past failures and to ignore
its successes. Invasion ecology is making real
progress with defining impact and characterizing
risk. Let’s not throw up our hands in despair just yet.

Julie L. Lockwood Rutgers,
The State University of New Jersey, USA.
[email protected]
Martha F. Hoopes Mount Holyoke College, Massachusetts, USA.
Michael P. Marchetti California State University, California, USA.

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Non-natives: four risk factors

Mark Davis et al. set an unrealistically high
bar for those making management decisions about
exotic species (Nature 474, 153–154; 2011).
Control is often easier, cheaper and more
effective soon after detection (R. A. Haack et
al. Annu. Rev. Entomol. 55, 521–546; 2010). We
agree that research on ecosystem impact is
necessary, but such studies can take years.
Meanwhile, we suggest that control priorities
for potential invasive species could be based on
easily available data about natural history and
evolutionary ecology. We propose four guidelines
for identifying such invasives.

An exotic organism may be more likely to invade
and cause disruption the greater its rate of
reproduction; the greater its dispersal ability;
the closer (phylogenetically) its preferred food
in its native range is to an abundant taxon in
the new range; and the farther away
(phylogenetically) its predators and pathogens
are in its native range from those in its new range.

For example, the red turpentine beetle
(Dendroctonus valens) is not particularly
disruptive in its native range in North America
because it attacks only trees that are already
weakened. In China it attacks and kills healthy
trees (Z. Yan et al. Biodivers. Conserv. 14,
1735–1760; 2005). The reasons for this beetle’s
success as an invasive include its high
dispersal and reproductive rates, its affinity
for Chinese pines closely related to those it
feeds on ‘at home’, and the lack of predators or
pathogens phylogenetically similar to ones found in North America.

Manuel Lerdau Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical
Garden, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Menglun,
Yunnan, China; and University of Virginia, Virginia, USA.
[email protected]
Jacob D. Wickham Institute of Chemistry, Chinese
Academy of Sciences, Beijing, China.


David Cameron Duffy
Professor of Botany and Unit Leader
Pacific Cooperative Studies Unit (PCSU)
University of Hawai`i

Christopher Moore, Ph.D. student
Program in Ecology, Evolution, and Conservation Biology
Department of Biology
University of Nevada, Reno

Office: Fleishman Agriculture Building 140
Webpage: http://www.unr.edu/~cmmoore
Email: [email protected]


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