Honorable Forum:

Methinks the "sides" doth protest too much. And, there is far too much digression (and apples/oranges, even mites/whales push and shove) in the conduct of the discourse. That is, the discussion simply lack discipline worthy of a scientific or even an intellectually honest approach, particularly when the discussion strays (nay, jumps) from ecological phenomena to economic effects.

Perhaps the most egregious is the tendency to mix ecosystem phenomena/function with cultural values. For sure, I would prefer that I did not get, say, ripgut brome seed stuck in my socks or my dog's ears, but this is an issue apart from the scientific analysis that includes origins and evolution, genetics, environmental conditions conducive or unfavorable to population persistence or expansion, or the role of mechanisms that promote, limit, or eliminate a species or ecotype from a particular ecosystem.

The "debate" resolved nothing, as far as I could tell; neither party changed the other, they merely chanted each other's mantras.

I would certainly like, however, to see the issue (better yet, the phenomenon) of "alien" species better articulated. One way to initiate the process might be to first establish areas of agreement. That, as Chew points out, is unlikely to happen in the popular media, obsessed as it is, with bleeding and goring. Titillating, perhaps, but boring in terms of intellectual discourse.

WT


----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Chew" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:18 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] "Don't judge species" discussed on CBC radio


Marine Biologist Jim Carlton and I debated the merits of invasion biology
yesterday on Canadian Broadcasting Corp's  live Radio 1 morning show, "The
Current"
If you like that sort of thing you can stream it at
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/2011/08/04/biological-bias/
About 25 minutes long, including introductory stuff

Matthew K Chew
Assistant Research Professor
Arizona State University School of Life Sciences

ASU Center for Biology & Society
PO Box 873301
Tempe, AZ 85287-3301 USA
Tel 480.965.8422
Fax 480.965.8330
[email protected] or [email protected]
http://cbs.asu.edu/people/profiles/chew.php
http://asu.academia.edu/MattChew


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