Wayne and others,

I don't think ESA will be ignored in Austin -- just as it has not been ignored 
in other cities where it has met in the past.  I think the media will have 
reportage on the meeting once it is underway.

So far as "fingerwagging" by " ecologists:  ESA could do a much better job of 
teaching the public who and what ecologists are, but a goodly fraction of the 
public has been mislead about that, and minds are hard to change.  Now, if by 
"fingerwagging" you mean that some folks, whether they are ecologists or not, 
but are such under the public view, have been reminding government, industry, 
and the public that we have real problems, hmmmmmm ........ .  We do have real 
problems.  They need fixing.  Not telling government, industry, and the public 
about the problems is certain to result in them not getting fixed.

I may be a "fingerwagger."  So may a lot of other responsible folks.

David McNeely

---- Wayne Tyson <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Ecolog and Madhu:
> 
> Next to sociologists, "ecologists" take the cake for finger-wagging; thus 
> they end up ignored. Maybe if "they" did less preaching and more explaining 
> in terms others can understand, "things" would BEGIN to change. But don't 
> expect "it" to flip overnight, it will take time to heal the mental scars 
> that thousands of insults have ground into the public psyche, not to mention 
> the misinformation.
> 
> One way might be a fact-check source that reporters and Joe Sixpacks could 
> depend upon. However, given the limited ability of "ecologists" to iron out 
> rather simple matters among themselves, what chance would such a source 
> have?
> 
> Brainstorm that!
> 
> WT
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Madhusudan Katti" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:46 AM
> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] A few thousand ecologists meet in the city to discuss 
> Earth stewardship... but does anybody know or care? - a leaf warbler's 
> gleanings
> 
> 
> > Hello from Austin, folks!
> >
> > I would like to share some thoughts from my blog as I prepare for the ESA 
> > 2011 meeting starting here today, and wonder why this big meeting isn't in 
> > the news - anywhere:
> >
> > http://leafwarbler.posterous.com/a-few-thousand-ecologists-meet-in-the-city-to
> >
> > I would appreciate any feedback, on why ESA isn't more in the news, or 
> > whether it is just my misperception.
> >
> > Madhu
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Madhusudan Katti
> > Associate Professor of Vertebrate Biology
> > Department of Biology, M/S SB73
> > California State University, Fresno
> > Fresno, CA 93740-8034
> >
> > Email: [email protected]
> > Tel: 559.278.2460
> > Fax: 559.278.3963
> > Lab: http://www.reconciliationecology.org/
> > ULTRA: http://urban-faces.org/
> > Blog: http://leafwarbler.posterous.com/
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
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David McNeely

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