John,

Their are lots of examples out there, but here are two papers describing 
experiments that are very similar to yours in many elements of design and 
execution, both involving fish, experimental streams, and comparisons that 
involve initial and final measurements on groups of individuals that are not 
individually identified.

Resetarits, W. J., Jr. 1995. Limiting similarity and the intensity of 
competitive effects on the
mottled sculpin, Cottus bairdi, in experimental stream communities. Oecologia 
104:31-38.

Resetarits, W. J., Jr. 1997. Interspecific competition and qualitative 
competitive asymmetry
between two benthic stream fish. Oikos 78:429-439.

Good luck,
Bill

On 5/31/12 10:57 AM, "John Winkowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello fellow ecolog'ers,

I am an MSc student studying environmental effects on phenotypic development 
and fitness of
juvenile Atlantic salmon.

I conducted a study where I incubated salmon eggs in 2 different environments, 
measured a few
phenotypic traits, and placed equal numbers of fish from both incubation 
environments in "semi-
natural" stream channels to measure survival and growth in the first 45 days 
post-emergence. Thus,
fish from both treatment groups were competing in the stream channels with only 
natural prey items
available.

The fish were too small to individually mark them at the onset of the 
experiment, so I could only
mark them to treatment with VIE tags. I was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions on how to
analyze such group data. Is it legitimate to compare average initial weight 
with average final weight?

I have the lengths and weights at the onset of the experiment and at the end of 
the experiment. 40
fish from each treatment group went into each stream (thus, 80 fish/stream, 
with 8 replicate
streams) and the streams were closed systems. At the end of the experiment I 
drained each stream
and measured (length and weight) the surviving fish.

Any insight would be excellent! Thanks so much.

Cheers,

John Winkowski

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