What would Buzz Holling say? Panarchy theory posits that biological evolution generates hierarchical structure. This would infer directionality. And in the conceptual model, destruction is said to creative, which might infer advancement.This is particularly interesting when thinking about what Simin Davoudi calls "Evolutionary Resilience", which occurs when communities and systems have "the room" to respond to change by allowing them to evolve. She presents this in an Urban Planning context, but it resonates for me when considering how ecological thinking might bridge to, and inform, socio-ecological systems. Finally, I wonder what can be said of a system that has produced "Love"? Is this not directional advancement?
Doug Shoemaker On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Neahga Leonard <[email protected]>wrote: > Eric, > > "Communities evolve"? I'd suggest that communities restructure, but don't > evolve. The relationships between the shifting members of the communities > could be said to evolve. > > The evolution of the relationships (eg. flower shape & hummingbird beak > shape, etc) is driven by evolution of the populations comprising the > communities. > > Tom is entirety correct that it is populations, not individual organisms > that evolve, if it were the latter we would be back with view of evolution > espoused by Lamarck. > > > -- > Neahga Leonard > > *There is not just a whole world to explore, there is a whole universe to > explore, perhaps more than one.* > http://writingfornature.wordpress.com/ > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Eric North <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tom; could you clarify? > > I would argue that communities evolve. Read anything from the Cottonwood > > Ecology group out of Northern Arizona University and Tom Whitam. > > > > Best-Eric > > > > Eric North > > All Things Wild Consulting > > > > P.O. Box 254 > > > > Cable, WI 54821 > > > > 928.607.3098 > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 11:45:23 +0000 > > > From: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > You might want to rephrase your question #3, for it's not organisms > that > > evolve, but populations. > > > > > > Tom Culliney > > > > > > USDA-APHIS, PPQ > > > Center for Plant Health Science and Technology > > > Plant Epidemiology and Risk Analysis Laboratory > > > 1730 Varsity Drive, Suite 300 > > > Raleigh, NC 27606 U.S.A. > > > (919) 855-7506 > > > (919) 855-7595 (Fax) > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of jason.strickland > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:38 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions > > > > > > Dear group, > > > > > > I have compiled some of the ideas that were given to me about my > > discussion panel. The response was much lower than I expected so if you > > have any ideas, feel free to share those as well. Thank you to all those > > that contributed. > > > > > > > > > 1. Will most organisms be capable of adapting quickly enough to > > respond to climate change/sea level rise to be evolutionarily relevant? > > > > > > 2. What impact will Genetically Modified Organisms have on the > > ecology and evolution of the modified species and other species? > > > > > > 3. Do organisms progress/improve/advance through evolution? > > > > > > 4. Do ecological processes/interactions last long enough to have > > any meaningful impact on the evolutionary trajectory of a species? > > > > > > Please share your thoughts on these topics or suggest others. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Jason Strickland > > > [email protected] > > > > > > From: jason.strickland > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:59 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions > > > > > > Dear group, > > > > > > I am currently working on forming a discussion panel that will include > > two ecologists and two evolutionary biologists to discuss topics that > > involve merging ecology and evolution. The discussion will be in front of > > 150-200 students ranging from undergraduates to post-docs (all in > biology). > > The panel will happen on a Saturday morning so it needs to be an exciting > > discussion to hold the audience's interest and cause them to ask > questions. > > > > > > I am looking for topics/questions that the two fields do not completely > > agree on. The goal is to have the panel disagree on topics to allow the > > students to learn and be entertained. If anyone can suggest topics or > > questions that ecologists and evolutionary biologists have different > > viewpoints on, they would be greatly appreciated. I have a few topics > > already, but wanted to ask a larger audience to suggest topics to > determine > > if there are certain topics/questions that come up frequently. Feel free > to > > email me directly ([email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>) or respond to this post with your > > suggestions. > > > > > > Thank you in advance for your help, > > > > > > Jason Strickland > > > [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA > > solely for the intended recipients. Any unauthorized interception of this > > message or the use or disclosure of the information it contains may > violate > > the law and subject the violator to civil or criminal penalties. If you > > believe you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > > and delete the email immediately. > > > > > -- Douglas A. Shoemaker, MS Ph.D. Student *| *Nolan A. 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