Our culture is one of automatically responding to 'consumer demand' regardless 
of consequences to quality of land, animals livelihood or water. We decide to 
create engineered solutions to increase efficiency while responding to this 
consumer demand as if it was this completely uncontrollable hand coming from 
the sky.

We have a responsibility to have bi-directional communication with these 
consumers and be open to altering what it is they demand. They are not newborn 
babies that demand what they demand, they are conscious beings that have 
emotions, brains and common sense. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yasmin J. Cardoza
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Livestock practice and ethics

Hello all, I am posting this on behalf of one of our students in animal 
science, Keena Mullen, with whom I shared this interesting discussion thread 
and she wishes to provide her insights on the topic. Her e-mail address is 
below if you wish to correspond to her directly. Cheers!

 

Yasmin

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Keena Mullen
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:12 AM
To: Yasmin J. Cardoza
Cc: CEFS List; Wilmer Pacheco-Dominguez; David Rosero Tapia; Santa Mendoza 
Benavides
Subject: Re: [cefslist] FW: [ECOLOG-L] Livestock practice and ethics

 

Hi all,

 

Here is the response that I sent to Dr. Ganter last night. 

I received your post on the ECOLOG-list from Yasmin Cardoza at NCSU. I am a PhD 
candidate in Animal Science at North Carolina State University, and I would 
like to respond to your comments. I won't be able to address all of your 
questions, but I would like to give you some points to ponder.

One of the major challenges that Animal Science faces is to produce animals 
more efficiently so that we can feed the ever-growing population with less land 
and resources. In order to do this, we have studied management strategies to 
increase production of food from animals. These strategies include those you 
mentioned - beak trimming, hormone usage, and "mass rearing facilities". Many 
animal science programs around the country have a mandatory animal 
welfare/animal well-being class that undergraduate students take. In addition, 
research in recent years has focused on animal welfare and assessing the 
natural behaviors of livestock, so that we can more adequately allow these 
animals to express their natural behaviors. One example of this research is the 
work of Dr. Temple Grandin, with whom you may be familiar. Her work on cattle 
handling has greatly decreased the stress of cattle heading to slaughter and 
her recommendations are being put into place worldwide.

Another major issue that Animal Science is dealing with in regards to 
increasing efficiency is that many consumers do not seem to care how their meat 
has been produced. I say this, because consumers in the United States spend 
very little of their income on food ( 
<http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/01/america-food-spending-less>
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/01/america-food-spending-less)
relative to other countries. Consumers demand cheap meat, so we strive to come 
up with technologies to produce it more efficiently. Of course, there are 
people who are concerned about where their food comes from, and that growing 
segment of the population is demanding change. I work with pasture-based and 
organic dairies and I see the great future in the market for these operations - 
many are also Animal Welfare Approved. This label is one way that consumers can 
make choices on purchasing food that will affect change in animal production.

Regarding the "ag-gag laws", I would like for you to think for a moment from 
the side of a farmer. Let's say you own a company, and you have a suspicion 
that your employees are doing something terribly wrong, but they seem to be 
doing their job and you don't find any evidence that they are doing something 
punishable. Your company is expanding and you decide to hire on a few more 
people. The next thing you know, those bad things you had suspicions about are 
posted all over YouTube by one of your recent hires.
Your reputation is ruined, and your company has a black mark because you hired 
in someone that you trusted and, instead of telling you what was going on, they 
video taped it for the whole world to see. My interpretation of the "ag-gag 
laws" is to prevent these types of untrustworthy people from being hired and 
destroying farms from the inside out. I agree, farmers should be more 
transparent about what they are doing to their livestock. I just think this can 
be accomplished by people visiting farms to learn about where their food comes 
from, rather than from a sensational YouTube video that may have been provoked 
by an animal rights detective.

I know that this does not answer your posed questions, but I thought I might 
pass on some "food for thought".

  <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif> 

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Yasmin J. Cardoza <[email protected]>
wrote:

I thought this might be of interest to some of you...it definitely got me 
thinking how little we usually think about this subject...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ganter, Philip
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Livestock practice and ethics

Ecologgers:

Two items caught my attention today.  One was a NPR interview program on the 
recent internet buzz over the Chinese government's supposed eugenics program 
(specifically, plans to breed for increased intelligence).  The other was a 
story read on the Atlantic website:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/03/how-state-ag-gag-laws-co
<http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/03/how-state-ag-gag-laws-c
ould-stop-animal-cruelty-whistleblowers/273962/>
uld-stop-animal-cruelty-whistleblowers/273962/

concerning legislative efforts to gag those who would inform the public about 
currently common livestock practices.  What tied the two together for me were 
these two interlinked questions:

How many of the problematic production techniques (mass rearing facilities, 
hormone manipulation, beak trimming, etc.) referred to in the Atlantic article 
were developed in university agronomy facilities and to what degree are 
research agronomists ethically responsible for the effect that the techniques 
they develop do not violate the animal welfare standards we must apply to 
research animals?

Is there a connection here?  Do research animals deserve better welfare than 
farm animals?  If so, why so?  The answer can't be that farm animals are 
destined for the slaughterhouse in any case.  Many research animals are 
"sacrificed".

I ask these questions in a sincere desire for both information and others 
thoughts.  I don't know who develops these techniques or how schools of 
agriculture treat the ethical question and would love to hear from someone who 
does.

Why on ecolog?  I am an ecologist and know that, before the rise of ecology 
departments, the connection between agriculture and ecology was much closer 
than today.  Even though many ecologists are found at schools with no 
agriculture, I still feel connected and perhaps other ecologists do as well.
The circle will be completed.  It's already happening (think of the LME 
movement in Fishery Science).

In any case, I was disturbed by the thought that university research may be 
behind common livestock practices that are so abhorrent to the public that the 
agriculture industry seeks to deprive the public of its right to know about 
them.  Are we complicit?



Phil Ganter
Dept. of Biological Sciences
Tennessee State University
(a 1890 Land Grant HBCU)

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