Well that's good to hear, But I do know from internal sources that 3 if the 4 I applied for we're internal hires. I answered the top score on every question. How can you do better than 100? And as I said, I have heard it straight from the horses mouth. It's so rampant that the question came up at a job fair. One manager said he absolutely does not do that and the other said it was pretty standard. So I guess it depends on the lab.
I realize that as a manager, if you have someone already in place as a post doc or contractor, it makes sense to go with someone who fits. What bothers me is that I spend time writing applications when there is zero chance I will get it. I have enough to do without blowing valuable time. M. Garvin Juneau, AK 907-957-0181 On May 16, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Sharif Branham <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree that a resume with key words is helpful. When appropriate quantify > the relevant experience. (e.g. Five years of lab management, six years of > supervisory experience). Also, it is critical that you follow the application > instructions. Many applicants eliminate themselves by not following > instructions or submitting incomplete applications. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 16, 2013, at 3:46 PM, "Christa Zweig" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It's necessary. There are whole books on the subject. I was directed to the >> one by Kathryn Troutmann, but there might be others. >> -c >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> Christa Zweig >> Post-doctoral associate >> University of Florida, Florida Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Unit >> Box 110485, Bldg 810 >> Gainesville, FL 32611-0485 >> 352-870-4132 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brent Bellinger >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:24 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] USA jobs: CV vs. Resume >> >> I am looking for some advice to improve my odds of getting past the initial >> applicant screenings in USA Jobs. As a research scientist, I've put together >> a pretty standard CV, which I've uploaded onto USA jobs and is used when >> applying for research positions. I was told recently by a non-scientist (a >> helicopter mechanic), the key when applying to positions through USA jobs is >> to make sure your resume utilizes key words which helps it rise to the top >> of the applicant list. A CV obviously does not have the depth of detail in >> terms of outlining skills, abilities, knowledge, etc. that a resume usually >> does. I'm wondering if I need to augment my profile and compliment my CV >> with a descriptive resume to help my odds of getting an interview? Is a >> key-word heavy resume a real and necessary thing in USA jobs, or have I just >> had bad luck with the past few positions I've applied to (i.e., they were >> not good fits with my skill set)? >> >> Thanks much for the insight on this matter. >> >> >> Brent Bellinger, Ph.D. >> post doctoral scientist >> U.S. Environmental Protection Agency >> Duluth, MN
