In light of the outpouring of grievances that John A. has received, perhaps it 
would be useful for any of those respondents to allow their stories to be 
published here - as a form of moral support.

We are obviously not alone, though I know many of us feel that way; isolated 
from our would-be peers and possibly feeling a bit 'left out' of contributing 
to this listserv for fear of not feeling adequate
in our chosen field, simply because we do not have the 'experience'. For me, I 
often feel that so much time has gone by that it is increasingly harder to have 
potential employers hold my degree in any regard, and yet,
I am still so driven and compelled to succeed that five years on, I refuse to 
give up. 

Are there others who responded (or did not) that would be willing to perhaps 
form an offline network to share input? It seems that until we find our niche 
in our fields, we could all use the peer support.
It would be great to get a dialogue going about this topic.
And for those that have succeeded and are happily working in their dream field, 
some gentle advice on how to move forward would most likely be appreciated by 
all. 

Thoughts? 

Erin McLenegan
B.S. Oceanography and not giving up!

----- Original Message -----
From: John A.
Sent: 02/09/14 10:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Recent PhDs on Food Stamps - Overwhelmed with Replies

 I've already received many, many replies in the first 48 hours since I posted 
my request. I've heard from more people than I can easily count--recent Ph.D.s, 
graduate students, even undergraduates with difficult stories of hard work, 
perseverance, and increasing despair that they will ever find work in the 
disciplines they've trained for. I will do my best to respond to everyone who's 
contacted me; if you haven't heard from me yet, it's only because there are so 
many others who have also poured out their fears and their frustrations. There 
are a great many people in our field who have found their calling, earned their 
degree, and now can find no way to support themselves--the invisible and 
disregarded of modern academia. Because many of you have expressed concerns 
about privacy, let me say that I won't share names, affiliations or any other 
identifying details unless the individuals involved grant their permission. If 
you or a friend have been hesitating out of personal con!
 cerns, please know that I consider every contact a confidence, and I don't 
intend to break that trust. - J. A.




Erin

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