Conservative and Liberal political commentary are largely brainwashing
America.  When a good solution to anything is developed it is essential to
consider the concerns and desires of all involved.  When people believe
that republicans wear golden halos and democrats are scum, or that
republicans are scum and democrats are holy, one misses the boat.  It is
difficult to imagine any individual whose entire ideology matches more than
3/4 of what eitehr of these groups stand for.  Each has its ideas that are
good or bad, effective or not effective, and even bought by the highest
bidding superpac.  The idea that any far right or left individual is
willing to objectively consider the ideas of the other side is not very
likely.  However, I believe that a large chunk of the voter-base simply
have been fenced off from the ideas of the other side, although willing to
objectively consider evidence posed in a manner that they can understand
and consider.

Even among academics, who should be the most objective and the least
part-bound citizens, there is an obvious filtering of  political
information or ideas often composed of notions that are simply not
correct.  One thing Trump is right about, you cannot trust the information
posed in the media.  Why?  much of it is biased, at least some of it is
completely wrong, and much of it is slanted to support one side or the
other.

IF all you hear is one side of the story (in politics), you are probably
grossly misinformed.  Everyone needs to review what was really said and in
what context when they hear an accusation or contention in regard to
politicians,...on both sides of the aisle.  As scientists, we should be
politically agnostic.  Equally willing to help either side, consider each
side's ideas, and assist in developing solutions that resolve disagreements
instead of amplifying them.  These are imperfect parties composed of
imperfect people, just as we scientists are imperfect.  The extreme
isolation of ideas that is promoted by both liberal and conservative news
media is in many ways fueling this problem.

I suspect that if you took the conservative half of democrats and the
liberal half of republicans, that we would find there is more in common
among those two groups than with the far right or left of their own
parties.  Hence, engaging misinformed environmental/ecological ideas that
are not in line with current dogma should be effective for eliciting
progress. This assumes my suspicion about information isolation and
ideological affinities is even close to accurate.

We cannot continue on the current path we are on.  Each new term cannot
involve rash overturn of policies replaced by other extreme policies.  Such
instability can only lead to an upheaval of governmental stability and
effectiveness.  Stable policies are more effective, even if they do not
satisfy the full needs of all involved, and they assist in economic
stability as well.

You can't always get what you want, but sometimes, you get what you need.
(sounds like a song lyric? RS!).  THis philosophy needs to be incorporated
into our political system rather than my way or the highway.  Getting half
of what you want is better than nothing, and sometimes it ends up better
than all of what you wanted... because some of what you wanted was simply
wrong.

Admitting some of your own ideas can and are probably wrong is the first
step to negotiation in politics and life.
More of us need to use this as a position of power to elicit progress
instead of assuming we have all the answers about everything.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Peter Morrison <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The Big Question:  Is it possible to change the minds of people that listen
> to and believe Rush Limbaugh?  This would be a great scientific study.
> Perhaps some scientist could determine the success rate of various methods
> for changing minds of his listeners? The results would be very interesting!
>
>
> Kind regards, Peter Morrison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Perrine
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Limbaugh belittles extinction crisis
>
> Apparently, some people think Rush Limbaugh "is a big fat idiot."
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Rush-Limbaugh-Big-Fat-Idiot/dp/0440508649
>
> While Malcolm's points are undoubtedly valid, I wonder who of the folks
> that
> listen to Rush Limbaugh will find them compelling.  We can preach to our
> choir, but I wonder if we'll change any minds, especially among those who
> think we academics are pointy-headed whiners who worship trees and are
> ultimately trying to destroy the American economy.
>
> If anything, you could send this thread and its supporting evidence to Al
> Franken to use in his next book, read into the Congressional Record, etc.
>
> - John P.
>
>
> John D. Perrine, PhD
>   Associate Professor / Curator of Mammals and Birds
>   Biological Sciences Department
>   California Polytechnic State University
>   San Luis Obispo, California  USA    93407-0401
>



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Malcolm L. McCallum
Aquaculture and Water Quality Research Scientist
School of Agriculture and Applied Sciences
Langston University
Langston, Oklahoma


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