On 29 Jan 00, at 18:13, Paul S. Hetrick wrote:

> Everybody can't homestead or farm.  Many of the people I know 
> claim to homestead actually lead very unsustainable lives.  A
> quiet place in the country is a nice lifestyle, but driving
> two hours each way into the city to work is hardly 
> sustainable.

I know a lot of people who do this. We do not own a car by choice. 
Living carless is an option we would have to give up if we 
attempted to move to a rural area now.

> 
> I really hated living in the suburbs.  

I have never lived in what I would call a suburb. Although, some 
would call the high density rental housing development we lived in 
prior to our current place a suburb. 

I rented a room 
> in a house most of the time I was there, so I couldn't
> even use what yard there was.  What really got to me 
> was all of the chemically-induced pool-table-top yards
> that never got used as anything but money drains.  If
> even a tenth of the people who have the space would put
> in a garden it would make a difference to our world.
> Get off the grass, a yard is a terible thing to waste.

I know that I have had a profound influence on this in the urban 
townhouses I have lived in prior to moving to this apartment. I was 
the first person in one of the developments to put a garden in the 
small backyard. By time we left 6 years later about a third of the 
units had gardens. We were not at the next place long enough for 
us to see the influence we were having, but I know from some of the 
comments from neighbours that I had really got people thinking, not 
just about gardening but about gardening organically. Previous 
tenants in that townhouse had been unable to grow anything there 
using standard chemical gardening. I got a lot of attention for my 
composting and the resulting garden. The gardens were always a 
mixture of ornamentals and edibles, and given the small spaces 
and in your face closeness to neighbours, I always paid attention to 
making things attractive. It worked. I got a lot of positive comments.

> 
> Not long ago I chatted with somebody that raised almost
> all of their own vegetables for a family of 5 on a 1/4
> acre suburban lot.  He also was starting to raise meat 
> rabbits in the garage.

I have gotten as high as 75% of my family's annual produce needs 
on a combination of a 50 by 50 foot allotment, 25 by 50 foot 
allotment, and miniscule townhouse backyard. When I gave up the 
car I moved to a closer allotment that was smaller. I currently 
manage between 1/3 and 1/2 of our family's produce needs. If I can 
get a house with a reasonable lot size, I can reduce my travel time, 
make better use of early spring and late fall, and increase to nearly 
a hundred percent of our produce needs.

> 
> When I was living in the near-in suburbs of Washington, 
> DC I met a couple guys running a honey bee display at 
> the county fair.  I said I wished I had a place to put 
> a hive or two.  One of the guys had two hives on the 
> balcony of his 5th (or so) floor apartment in downtown 
> Bethesda.  

Very cool. I like challenging people's idea of what space is needed. 
I envision a future when every major office tower has allotment 
gardens on the roof. Summer cooling requirements would go way 
down, and a lot of food and pleasure gardening would be 
happening. Probably not in my lifetime, but maybe my children's.

> 
> There is a web site at http://www.cityfarmer.org/ 
> that deal with city farming and sustainablety.  I think 
> even rural people should take a look at that site.  

This is a good site.

> 
> There is a web site at 
> http://www.geocities.com/~newliberty/earthstar/index.html 
> by a couple who raise much of their food on their 
> windowsills.  It looks like they are in a rural area, 
> but their ideas will provide fresh greens for anybody 
> with a window.

I grew a couple of pounds of sweet potatoes, several litres of cherry 
tomatoes, and lots of herbs and greens on my balcony this summer. 
Basil did especially well. If we were staying I would have tried 
melons this year. 

sph

Sandra P. Hoffman
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