None of the freight forwarders that we talked with mentioned use of CUSDEC.
It may be that this document is more commonly used by customs brokers or if
you are dealing with the customs office directly.  We're too far into the
process to change direction now; but this information may be of use to
Kiran.

David Whiting
3M Canada Company


"Bennett, Allan (GEAE)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David,

The EDIFACT CUSDEC message would, I think, be your best bet since it was
designed exactly for the functionality you are looking for.  Any chance of
getting your forwarders/brokers to use it?  If they are operating in this
international shipping/customs arena and are electronically enabled at all
I
would suspect that they are already using CUSDEC.

Allan Bennett
GE Aircraft Engines


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need help on 857 & 310 structure


We have been working on an export shipping system, which includes an EDI
component to send shipping and invoice information (in the form of a
"commercial invoice" or "customs invoice") to both our freight forwarders
and customs brokers.  We polled several freight forwarders to find out what
is commonly used, and found that there is nothing "common" about this.
Some transactions that are currently being used include 301, 304, 856, 810
and Edifact INVOIC.  We found the most widely accepted was the 856, so
that's what we decided to use.  The 310 is generally only used by the Ocean
carrier to send a freight invoice to the forwarder or shipper.

The 856 is not designed to carry invoice information very well, but we
found it could be done by using repetitions of the SAC to hold the various
charges.  Perhaps the 857 would be better for this purpose, but
unfortunately very few people use it in practice.  Since we already have
experience with the 856, we decided to go with what we know.

We are currently piloting this transaction with our freight forwarders and
it seems to be OK.  We also plan to send the same document to our customs
broker for those shipments where we don't use a forwarder, but we haven't
got the buy-in from the broker yet.

Regards,

David Whiting
3M Canada Company


--- Kiran Dunthuluri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have shipments coming different country via
> ocean. We need to send the
> shipment information along with cost(Invoice
> information)  and customs
> information to the customs Broker. We are looking at
> the EDI documents 857 and
> 310. We are completely new to both of these
> transactions and the other part is I
> need to develop the implementation guidelines for
> the document selected. If you
> have any suggestions about the correct document to
> use and any help in sharing
> the document structure is greatly appreciated
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kiran Dunthuluri
>
> EDI consultant
> Toyota Tsusho America.
> 502 867 5073
>

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