I certainly question the value of spending any time in upgrading to 4030.
Let's face it, this program as envisioned and presented by the government
isn't working. VANS, myself included have invested tremendous capital in
building an infrastructure for the government to connect to some 300,000
suppliers. Who wouldn't jump at this opportunity. The reality is that the
volumes never approached this number. It's down to a trickle today. Why do
VANS persist in providing free software to an entity that certainly has the
ability to pay. None of the major players are in this market.
While this was a good idea, it's execution was horrible and still continues
to be so. Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea. But it hasn't worked
because special interest lobbyist forced Congress to allow each agency to
pursue it's own EC strategy. A sort of 'Tower of Babel' model. So the very
premise of one face to the government has crumbled. Some good things have
happened though, and the system is in place and works well. Another great
example of American ingenuity, but the government hasn't allowed capitalism
to take hold. VANS can't compete effectively because DOD wouldn't release
their vendor list to the very architects of the system. One solution is to
allow the VANS to interconnect directly to the agencies and bypass DMC
ODGEN.
Another option is for DOD to pay for distributing it's RFQ daily, even
hourly, currently its free. There is no incentive for agencies to compete
and save tax payer dollars. None. This brilliant idea that got started when
a major candidate for the Presidency realized that special interests were
charging the government $700 for a hammer is dying a quiet death.
The nature of our economic structure is such that we compete for the best
products and services, as Microsoft and AT&T discovered. DOD continues to
request spec changes ad infinitum and we get to work for free.
I'm a Survivor
Wesley Holder
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Gov't (838-TXN04)
> Straight from the Government (excerpt):
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Meeting Minutes
>
> JECPO
> Central Contractor Registration VAN Meeting
> 23 June 2000
>
> The JECPO's CCR Van Town Hall Meeting met in Ft. Belvoir, Virginia on 23
> June 2000. CAPT John Mauthe chaired the meeting.
>
> Summary of Discussions - Version 2.1, 4030, & the Future
>
> Ms. Hall discussed the introduction of CCR version 2.1 data elements to be
> added to CCR. These new elements necessitate upgrading the 838 from 4010
to
> 4030. The CCR program anticipates that it will implement the upgrade to
> 4030 during the beginning of August, 2000 (stop accepting 4010 838's on 4
> Aug 00 and begin accepting 4030 838's on 7 Aug 00). The 4030 upgrade will
> also correct many of the inconsistency issues between the 838 and the CCR
> web page. Testing will be available for the VANs prior to this cut-over.
>
> Additionally, Ms. Hall briefed that, due to planned CCR program processes
> improvements (specifically, moving the data validation process to be
> on-line), CCR will stop accepting 838's as a method of registration on 8
Jan
> 01. At this time, all registrations (new and updates) will be entered
> through the web. The VANs questioned the necessity of their community to
> upgrade to 4030 if the 838 would stop being accepted in January. Ms. Hall
> stated that CCR has to go to 4030 in order to make the implementation
> schedule for the new elements, but that it is each VANs business decision
> whether or not they wish to upgrade or to stop transmitting 838's to CCR.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Todd Gould
> Technical Director
> Loren Data Corp.
>
>
> ===== Original Message from WKAMMERE@SMTP (William J. Kammerer)
> {[EMAIL PROTECTED]} at 9/01/00 9:37 am
> >Does this mean that the gov't will stop accepting the 838 altogether, or
> >just that it will stop accepting pre-004030 838's? It's a little
> >ambiguous.
> >
> >William J. Kammerer
> >FORESIGHT Corp.
> >4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
> >Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> >+1 614 791-1600
> >
> >Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
> >"Commerce for a New World"
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Todd Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:07 AM
> >Subject: Re: Gov't (838-TXN04)
> >
> >
> >The government has recently changed it's 838 to the 4030 version, and in
> >January will stop accepting them altogether.
> >
> >However, to be able to conduct EDI through the Federal DEBX
> >infrastructure,
> >you need to send one and only one TXN segment with the value
> >004030D838_0.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Todd Gould
> >Technical Director
> >Loren Data Corp.
>
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