Re: Bracket Price - EDI Assistance

Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:47:17 -0800

Stefan,
It appears that the price bracket information on first look is designed to be
implemented in the line item section of the transaction set as outlines with a
specified G93/G40 pair for each price break interval you wish to stipulate. All
of the needed data information appears to be present in the CTP Loop within the
LIN loop in the detail. My take is that the CTP level is the logical place to
stipulate price break information. This assumes that the catalog is customer
specific and is done in the following manner.
Customer Header information for Customer
Product LIN Detail Loop
Description
Pricing Information CTP Price Loop
Bracket G93/G40 Pair of segments per bracket
Bracket
Bracket
Service Promotion/Allowance Special Discount Offering (SAC)
Product
Description
Pricing Information
Bracket
Bracket
Bracket
...
End of transaction.......
The SAC is designed to provide special allowances and periodic discounts for special
offers being provided by the manufacturer or agreed to by contract.
In the example above, the first product has three price breaks with a special offering
based on a marketing initiative to move that product. The second is a standard
product offering with three brackets. Both products are purchased by the customer trading
partner or have been in the past.
The requirement is a specification of the trading partner that you are working to implement.
What does the trading partner call for? In the event that you are attempting to
automate supplier catalogs, then I would ask your top suppliers for their specifications
such that you can determine what the pool of suppliers are doing as a whole.
This should provide you with the needed information to design an interface which will
serve the total population and provide the robustness to preclude major modifications
in the future when implementing more trading partners.
I have not worked with the transaction set before, however, I would proceed in this
manner to ensure that what ever you do, you are able to accommodate your potential
trading partners.
Bottom line, It's a matter of how a specific trading partner and yourself agree to
pass the information. At first glance, the SAC segment may appear easier, but it
won't help you if every trading partner that you add in the future cannot support
the methodology. The only way to avoid this event is to determine what your potential
pool of trading partners are doing. By doing this, you will begin to see rather rapidly
a general methodology of how they implemented it in aggregate. That is the most direct
path to pursuit that will lead to a robust and scaleable interface in the long run.
It may not provide a direct and easy answer in the short run, but it will prevent a lifetime
of running around trying to convince trading partners to do it your way if you miss. This
short term short sightedness can lead to missed opportunities and lost sales based on your
"abnormal" method of implementation. You may well end up having to be able to do it both ways
if no clear method emerges from your trading partners, but at least you will eliminate the speculation
and miss if you attempt to interpret without looking how everyone else did it....
Regards,
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Mischenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: Bracket Price - EDI Assistance
To EDI List Server
> Bracket prices can be setup in the 832 in the G93 and G40 segments.
>
> Issues:
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> - Current practices are to represent bracket prices under the SAC
> segment.
> - Catalogue bracket price G93 and G40 is not fully operational and can
> not be use today.
>
> The example below is about how currently implemented Volume Discount.
>
> $1 off per case for volume 48 cases to 479 cases
> $6 off per case for volume 480 cases to 1055 cases.
> $8 off per case for volume 1056 cases over.
>
>
> CTP**UCP*40.35*1*CA
> DTM*196*19980907
> CTP**UCP*39.6*1*CA
> DTM*196*19990510
> SAC*A*I170***100****CA*48*479*02***Discount Amt
> SAC*A*I170***600****CA*480*1055*02***Discount Amt
> SAC*A*I170***800****CA*1056**02***Discount Amt
>
> The Questions:
>
> * Is the SAC the place to identify bracket volume discounts
> * Can G93 / G40 be discarted due to the complexity of the setup
> * Can brackets perhaps be setup at the CTP level
>
>
> Request for changes:
>
> * Allow duplication in the SAC04 for code I170 to represent volume
> discount
> * If CTP to represent bracket price, CTP04 quantity field to be
> assigned for bracket quantity.
>
Regards
Stefan Mischenko
Industry Relations Support Analyst
Electronic Commerce Council of Canada
Toll Free 1-800-567-7084
Tel 416-510-8039 ext. 2274
Fax 416-510-8043
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