Actually, UCS (part of the original UCS/WINS standards body) was a separate EDI standard for the grocery/public warehousing industry. It merged with X.12 circa 1990. When the merger was taking place, the 2 standards were review for common documents (ie 875/850). Some documents that were not being used very widely were absorbed and the X12 documents were used (ie the 941 was the WINS standard to report inventory, now everyone uses the 846), however the PO and Invoice 875/880 were so widely used that it was difficult to make a blanket statement that the 875 would be replaced by an 850. This is more about history that technology. Many in the grocery industry use the 850, but many still use the 875. If you are in this business, you support both. There is no technical reason the 875 could not go away. Since the 875 was originally developed for a specific industry, it is a much more streamlined document than the 850. Thank goodness for mappers...... map the 850 and the 875 to look the same to your application and who cares what the trading partner sends. cjg Carl J. Galgano EDI Consulting Services, Inc. 550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800 Marietta, GA 30060 (770) 422-2995 - voice (419) 730-8212 - fax mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ediconsulting.com AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and Implementation http://www.icecreamovernight.com Premium Ice Cream Brands shipped Overnight "You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw -----Original Message----- From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UCS In the olden days of yore, Karen's observation would have been correct, but beginning with version 003040UCS, the UCS standard embraced the ISA/GS enveloping that we yanks know and love. UCS is a body that developed standards based on X12, but which specifically addressed the concerns of the grocery products supply chain. Most of their transaction sets closely follow the X12 standards, with the historical exception of the 875 PO and 880 invoice. With version 004010 - the X12 community embraced these two heretofore unique documents. At my previous gig, we did a lot of UCS POs and invoices using 875s and 880s. With the advent of 004010, some of our customers wanted to continue sending these two docs, but under the X12 banner. We simply changed their setups in TLE, and continued to use the same UCS map. No problems. (please read the fine print. This is anecdotal information -- we never bothered to do an in-depth study of the differences.) As far as I could tell, the biggest difference in the two standards for these documents is that UCS uses different values in the GS segment -- specifically, GS07 will contain "T" (meaning TDCC) and GS08 will contain "004010UCS". Art Douglas "Benko, Karen (CAP, PTL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure what standards body UCS is exactly, but the enveloping is different. Instead of ISA, GS, ST...SE, GE, IEA, UCS uses BG, GS, ST...SE, GE, EG. And yes, the 875 is pretty much the same in v4010 and v4010UCS. Cheers, Karen Benko, Programmer Analyst Penske Logistics Technology Center -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UCS Can someone please give me a brief explanation of the difference between an 875 v4010 and an 875 4010UCS? It appears we can implement a 875 v4010 and still suffice the specs for the 4010UCS. Thanks! Appreciate it! ======================================================================= To contact the list owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/edi-l%40listserv.ucop.edu/ ======================================================================= To contact the list owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/edi-l%40listserv.ucop.edu/ ======================================================================= To contact the list owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/edi-l%40listserv.ucop.edu/ ======================================================================= To contact the list owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/edi-l%40listserv.ucop.edu/
